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Returning bitter vet observations

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Flickstick Rick
Air
The Initiative.
#1 - 2016-09-06 14:03:23 UTC
So Ive played for first time in about 18months and I just want to share some observations and some little suggestions.

Firstly The biggest thing is the new map. And god am I thankful it can be turned the hell off.
I know its in beta but its UGLY, its overly annoying to use. The colours are god awful on both the star map and the probe system and it's slow. Im not sure WHY there needs to be a new map as im a stonch believer in if it aint broken dont fix it. BUT if there is some reason. Please for the love of god just make it work like the old one. Like literally the old one works great and is simple and freaking effective. Just carbon copy it to the new backend programing.


2. The market Tab. For the love of god why do I now have to open another option box to select show station/const/Region only. or uncheck show only availible. Sure its 1 extra click. But WHY!!!!! why why why.

3. And this is a big one. I'm seeing a lot of EVE is dying threads and talk of that type of thing. I have to say its noticable that less people are in space. As a player whos just come back I have to ask why new player experience is so talked about but regaining player experience is non existent. Veteran players who are corpless get dumped into 1 of several random npc channels full of alts. Having several characters I notice some of these corps are more active than others for meeting new people.
I would highly recommend a new channel anyone un-subscribed for more than 3 months who has been booted from a corp gets put into on returning. It should be much easier to find new friends in EVE than it currently is.

There should also be some serious discussion about how far CCP should go to help returning players with assets in far flung 00. Currently you can have 1 non-jump capable ship moved if you have been absent. But this does not encourage or go far enough to help people with considerable assets or assets such as super caps. People who want to retry EVE do not want to be reminded of the boring logistics side of it. Most want to come back for the shooty pew pew and corp comradery they use to have. Not to mentions if you have no alts to provide cynos or scout this can instantly be off putting. Its an awkward subject but there should be some compromise that is weighted in favour of getting players back over moral stand points on game mechanics. IE and option to have your super liquidated for current average isk value. Or maybe put into the same safety system as assets from a lost citadel. but retrievable from ANY XL citadel after a 14 day waiting period.

4. PLEX, SUBS etc etc.
I think the most common subject i've encountered amongst EX-Eve players is around Time investment and costs to play.
The game is TIME intensive on a huge scale. The most simple thing can take 20min. PVP hours. But interestingly I found most peoples complaint was the time they spent making isk to pay for plex. EVE has a reputation of being a second Job and plexing really doesn't help that. You are working to pay so you can keep working before you can spend anything on the fun parts of EVE.
As such I can't help wonder why CCP are not encouraging more people to subscribe. Plexing as a market strategy seems short sighted and while it generates more per plex the failure is the effect of player moral. Long term having players subscribe is better and should be more encouraged via bonuses like shorter clone jump timers. exclusive seasonal skins for 6/12 month subscriptions skins for constant subscription. etc etc.


Lugh Crow-Slave
#2 - 2016-09-06 14:09:21 UTC
1 thats in beta

2 clean up the ui

3 those threads have been on hear and every other online games forums for years as for the channels there are plenty to join based on your interests. as for moving assets your choices should have consequences even if you made them years ago

4 plexing is a players choice you are the one turning it into a second job. the reason we have it is not for ccp to make a quick buck off of it but to limit RMT.


Foxstar Damaskeenus
why did i join this corp
Not Purple Shoot It.
#3 - 2016-09-06 14:28:01 UTC
I like #3, as far as #1, I agree too; if it ain't broke, don't fix it!

"[this thread] is a cesspit of trolling and flaming" ISD Buldath

Voxinian
#4 - 2016-09-06 15:31:01 UTC
The whole cyno alt thing should be gone. It's ridiculous that you have to pay for 2 subs just so that you can use your sub-cap jump boat as inteded. Hell, alt accounts in itself was and is a terrible mechanic that obviously came into existance just for grabbing more money from players, not to improve game balance. It's a greed mechanic to milk players beyond 1 sub per player and it also offsets any 1v1 pvp when there are tons of players with alts.
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#5 - 2016-09-06 16:11:00 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
1 thats in beta

2 clean up the ui

3 those threads have been on hear and every other online games forums for years as for the channels there are plenty to join based on your interests. as for moving assets your choices should have consequences even if you made them years ago

4 plexing is a players choice you are the one turning it into a second job. the reason we have it is not for ccp to make a quick buck off of it but to limit RMT.





So plexing is a choice.... kind of like training off rate max is a choice. I'm getting confused.

As for the single ship move. It's a gift. Enjoy it. Again you chose to not play for a year. It's kind of anti immersion that all your stuff gets space magic'd to a place of your choosing. Then again, space magic is now a thing with citadels, so maybe we can get 'free move on' and always train at the max rate. We could even wonder why Eve is dying while utilizing our perma max training and space magicing stuff all over the board. This 'I can't space magic all my stuff because I left the game for a year' penalty is kind of harsh. It's all becoming clear.