Ships & Modules

At this point reducing the materials needed to build the marauders would likely have no affect on how much they cost, even if they were cheaper to make those who make them would likely still sell them for the same and pocket the difference and to be honest it would be stupid of them if they did not.

Well, not usually. These appear not to. But they require people to interpret them and it seems like everyone else in the thread has a different interpretation than you do.

Can't have a carrier in hs. T3's and snakes are in no way better than marauders.

Its a pve ship, not pvp one. yes it will suck for pvp. When I have seen it used like it had issues. AT a few years back. match broke down the most pure pvp you can have. 1 v 1. Marauder versus....well marauder. And CCP had to apply reverse TIDI. They had to sped up the combat speed. Worth noting following AT (and probably this one, haven't read over the lists tbh) marauders were banned from AT. Probably because on full reverse tidi the match went on and on an on.

I view AT as more pure pvp in some aspects. No reinforcements, no refits, no peon rush...aka blobbing the crap out of people.. No caps...lol. Mindless F1 spam monkey play will lose. And you see some cool ass comps we can't get in normal play. Still remember camel empire's 3 widow comp....thing of beauty (to a widow pilot anyway) we can't get in normal eve pvp.


It has been and still is a pve BS. 0.0 pve less so maybe. bastion ia a pita non blues pop up out of nowhere I will grant. Thats a 0.0 thing, signed up for when you go there, These are loved and more than fine in empire. For the cost you can run a pure t2 setup and be fine. Something even pirate or faction can't do (rattler can sort of...but active tanks run much better with shiny mods I have found).

Pirate hulls are cheaper now....some mods needed though get that price knocking on 800-900' mil's door all the same real quick. Marauder just skips all that foreplay at 1.2 bil and chump change for the t2 mods.

My kronos tank fit I ran as an example: LAR II, RAH, SS EANM (cheapish cost, had it laying around even and t2 almost just as fine really). Heavy injector II with 400's in mids (very rarely needed tbh). DCU II as well. Scan ships and mods this would be considered overtanked by many. Its 3 tank mods....no cap injection. My fit was in case I met new friends. Live long enough to hopefully see concord pop them was the idea.

This tank on vindi, mega ( navy included),.....not cutting it. Hell you can't really get a good t2 only vindi fit. They require shiny to clear grids really. Pirate bubble burst...but that vindi hull with shiny mods creeps up to 800-900 easy.

You never stated what you want to use them for. They have some pretty awesome pvp uses in wh space. They can fit through wh that carriers can't and you can put several through wh compared to carriers.

If you weren't totally focused on crap ratting - you would see they are a healthy ship class in a healthy place. Note every billion isk ship needs to farm anoms.

when you factor in insurance a carrier is cheaper

With the right mods, carriers will tank way more than a marauder can dream of tanking.

Every single person who's spoken in this thread against a buff to marauders has posted from an account with zero evidence of PvPing with one.

You seem to be forgetting that you also tried to say a T2 Battleship which happens to be weapons platform based, should be as good as a capital class fighter-carrier formerly drone ship based solely on the fact that they usually cost within a 100m ISK of each other depending on supply and demand and that the latter needs an improvement to justify this.

Literally this is like buying plantains at the supermarket and then returning them because they didn't ripen into bananas despite them being clearly labelled otherwise.

then don't buy one

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