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Solecist Project
#1 - 2016-08-31 18:22:24 UTC
And by that i mean two clients running at the same time.
This would be a great fall back option in case society doesn't adapt ...

So in an imaginary scenario everyone naturally has ...

... a webbing alt.
... a scouting alt.
... an ecm alt.
... a target painting alt.
... a trading alt.
... a mining alt.
... a ninja looting alt.
... an exploration alt.
... a nullsec alt.
... a wormhole alt.
... etc. etc.


Thanks!

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#2 - 2016-08-31 18:46:42 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
And by that i mean two clients running at the same time.
This would be a great fall back option in case society doesn't adapt ...

So in an imaginary scenario everyone naturally has ...

... a webbing alt.
... a scouting alt.
... an ecm alt.
... a target painting alt.
... a trading alt.
... a mining alt.
... a ninja looting alt.
... an exploration alt.
... a nullsec alt.
... a wormhole alt.
... etc. etc.


Thanks!


Kinda like an unlimited free trail lel.

Solecist...what is that link in your sig? cause it doesnt looke like the golden rules of eve lol...

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

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Captain Campion
Campion Corp.
#3 - 2016-08-31 18:47:35 UTC
It strikes me as odd that you'd need a separate account for each - try remembering all that login info?! - rather than just being able to make all these on one account and train them all - but when you make a subscription just choose which character it applies to.
Sitting Bull Lakota
Poppins and Company
#4 - 2016-08-31 18:58:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Sitting Bull Lakota
Basically everything that Solecist Project said, and I'd add:
Quote:
Q: Are there restrictions on simultaneous log on for Alpha Clones?

A: We have not decided whether the simultaneous log on restrictions from the current trial system will apply to Alpha Clones. The decision will partly depend on your feedback, as well as our technical investigations over the coming months
If there are no restrictions, I will use an armada of these free clones as a suicide gank fleet.
Much much much more destructively: the miners of New Eden will crank out hundreds of free mining bots. (edit: no ice mining, so there's that)

This being the case, it is more likely that CCP will:
A) Make the free alts similar in restriction to trials so there is a set limit (likely 0) on active "Alphas" simultaneous with "Omega" accounts.
B) Lock safeties to green or some other absurd measure to restrict free players' impact on the game.

So that is what the Alpha clone will become: a longer version of the trial account to which I'd point out:
We know that increasing the trial time limit doesn't seem to have an effect on retention rates.
We also know (I hope) that restricting player choice and involvement actually encourages players to leave rather than become excited about subbing.
Which leads me to my conclusion:

What's the point?
Solecist Project
#5 - 2016-08-31 19:02:11 UTC
Daichi Yamato wrote:

Kinda like an unlimited free trail lel.

Solecist...what is that link in your sig? cause it doesnt looke like the golden rules of eve lol...

I had a shortex url, i had no idea they change!
Thanks, i'll correct it!

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Angry Onions
League of Angered Gentlemen
#6 - 2016-08-31 21:05:52 UTC
You just want to watch things burn, don't you?

S H I T P O S T I N G
Kenrailae
Scrapyard Artificer's
#7 - 2016-08-31 21:53:12 UTC
But why?

The Law is a point of View

The NPE IS a big deal
Dolorous Tremmens
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2016-08-31 22:19:59 UTC
I see a win win for ccp here. I make another 1+ accounts, fill the character slots, train for the month, never pay again and reap. after all it was a real account i paid for, but i'm just currently unsubbed.

but for this to REALLY work, ccp needs to go all the way with the f2p model, i'm talking hats and locking all the alpha clones into a small area until they figure and earn their way out.

Get some Eve. Make it yours.
Solecist Project
#9 - 2016-08-31 23:24:21 UTC
This should only be a thing ...
... if there's a lack of change in new player behaviour.

I do wish for a game where real new players love to play support roles...

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Solecist Project
#10 - 2016-08-31 23:33:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
Kenrailae wrote:
But why?

This is an alternative.

In an ideal game everyone would be self aware of his capabilities and also aware of the demand of these capabilities.
These everyone include new players, of course.

In such a game people would seek out and look for people who fullfill specific roles.

Now we have alts for every thing ...
... instead of friends for at least some things.

The recruitment interfaces CCP provides are horribly limiting and inadequate!

It's the old players who need to realise their responsibility in this shift ...
... or suffer from the consequences of having masses of "lost" new players out there.


My idea basically addresses the worst case.

Promoting a scenario I ask for would allow everyone to have an alt who supports him.
Everyone can live in isolation, yet not be on the downside compared to those with friends ...
... or those with multiple accounts Omegas.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#11 - 2016-08-31 23:41:52 UTC
Cry

Thanks for reminding me that I are doing it wrong.

Eve Minions is recruiting.

This is the law of ship progression!

Aura sound-clips: Aura forever
Solecist Project
#12 - 2016-08-31 23:43:41 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
Cry

Thanks for reminding me that I are doing it wrong.

It is kind of sad.
Most people don't have friends or wingmen, they have alts.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#13 - 2016-08-31 23:51:36 UTC
Well I have corpmates and out of corp buddies. I thought that was a thing.

I are apologizing for not making 12 billion a day, flying 322 titans all day, mining all 7000+ ore anomalies at once, killing myself in a factions wars, ganking all freighters in New Eden at the same time, crashing the market for everything and causing terrible inflation of the entire economy and conquering all sov systems for myself all day long.

Please continue to blindfold, roofy, handcuff, gang-****, beat up and murdering the one-girl army you seem all too afraid of.

Eve Minions is recruiting.

This is the law of ship progression!

Aura sound-clips: Aura forever
Solecist Project
#14 - 2016-08-31 23:55:26 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
Well I have corpmates and out of corp buddies. I thought that was a thing.

I are apologizing for not making 12 billion a day, flying 322 titans all day, mining all 7000+ ore anomalies at once, killing myself in a factions wars, ganking all freighters in New Eden at the same time, crashing the market for everything and causing terrible inflation of the entire economy and conquering all sov systems for myself all day long.

Please continue to blindfold, roofy, handcuff, gang-****, beat up and murdering the one-girl army you seem all too afraid of.

Holy ****, wtf are you even talking about. lol
Go take your passive aggressiveness to tumblr?

It's nice that you have corpmates.

Do you realize i wasn't talking about you ...
... because you have friends who do things with you?

No? Oh! Well, now you know!

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#15 - 2016-09-01 01:45:36 UTC
Easy there, wasn't talking about you either.

Was talking blobbs of bad pilots in space. And all the folks with multiple-personality-disorder that play the game by themselves with 234057280670865279356 accounts.

Eve Minions is recruiting.

This is the law of ship progression!

Aura sound-clips: Aura forever
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#16 - 2016-09-01 01:46:48 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:

I had a shortex url, i had no idea they change!
Thanks, i'll correct it!
Try goo.gl; they don't change the links, some of mine are 2 years old and still work.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

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Brokk Witgenstein
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2016-09-01 03:57:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Brokk Witgenstein
Read something on reddit about f2p.
Went looking in the upcoming features subsection, drew a blank.

Could someone please kindly redirect me to the source of this intel so I can bust a gasket over there pls? Thanks.



EDIT: found it!
Brokk Witgenstein
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2016-09-01 04:12:17 UTC
Well. Read the article, have to admit I kind of like it.

Except for one tiny detail: if/when security gets locked in green status, those Omega trial accounts won't be able to try lowsec PvP either. Unfortunately, I can also totally see FW DPlexing abuse if those characters are able to trade. Even more so than the current army of DPlexers passively gathering LP in their stabbed unfitted ships.

Still ... more things to shoot I suppose.
Wimzy Chent-Shi
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2016-09-01 05:36:35 UTC
Well the game kinda makes you have an alt this way. Even if its a single vexor to give 5 drones and resebo and remote tracking. Depending on the ruling everyone could be followed by 5 vexors for everything. While still having army of vexors in null doing anoms.

Come get some cancer @ my blog !

"This clash of opinions is like cutting onions. We are creating something here, that's productive, ...and then there is also salt." -Wimzy 2016
Solecist Project
#20 - 2016-09-01 05:45:50 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:

I had a shorteD url, i had no idea they change!
Thanks, i'll correct it!
Try goo.gl; they don't change the links, some of mine are 2 years old and still work.

I DID use googles shortener...

The shortex in my post was a typo. Lol

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
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