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Scanning faster than warp!

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Demetheer
Cthulhu in your pod
#1 - 2016-08-30 23:48:39 UTC
Hello everyone!

I need some insight. How can you get scanned out as fast as you land in a safe spot.
I'll make myself clearer.

Jumped in a system with ninazu, warp to safe. cloak. Or so was the plan.

As i initiated warp and left grid, an Onyx arrived on cyno trying to catch me (so far all is normal)

But as i landed to that safe the same onyx was landing 7000k from me, and seconds later managed to warp to me (i was cloaked at that point and in mouvement) at exactly 0.

Ok, some combat probes were out. But how is it possible for any cloaker to scan me so fast that he can scan, warp his fleet on grid, scan a second time so his fleet lands at 0 on me, all of this him staying invisible?
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#2 - 2016-08-30 23:55:00 UTC
Doc would venture a guess you've used that safe spot before.







There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Demetheer
Cthulhu in your pod
#3 - 2016-08-31 00:05:15 UTC
never actually, it was my first time in system, my cyno frigate bookmarked it on flight without ever going to the spot itself.
FT Cold
FT Cold Corporation
#4 - 2016-08-31 00:16:39 UTC
If you're warping to an isolated celestial it's pretty easy to determine which direction you're moving. If the prober has implants, its likely that they can get a scan on 4au, as pods have a pretty terrible ratio of sensor strength to sig radius. People often fit warp speed rigs to get to you faster as well. It's really just a question of timing, and many of the people who catch pods in lowsec or elsewhere practice it extensively.
Demolishar
United Aggression
#5 - 2016-08-31 00:19:50 UTC
The Onyx itself had probes fitted.
Demetheer
Cthulhu in your pod
#6 - 2016-08-31 00:22:38 UTC
Demolishar wrote:
The Onyx itself had probes fitted.

no, a buzzard was in system i believe, the onyx was just fllowing me, he was arrived on my grid i was still displaying in warp
Demolishar
United Aggression
#7 - 2016-08-31 00:42:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Demolishar
Demetheer wrote:
Demolishar wrote:
The Onyx itself had probes fitted.

no, a buzzard was in system i believe, the onyx was just fllowing me, he was arrived on my grid i was still displaying in warp


The buzzard was squad warping the Onyx then. Either way works. A scan only takes 10 seconds and capitals warp slowly.
Solecist Project
#8 - 2016-08-31 00:51:11 UTC
Why don't you ask the person in question?

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Denavit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2016-08-31 00:59:53 UTC
leyend sais that if you are scanned in warp, they get your landing point, maybe it has to do with that
Serene Repose
#10 - 2016-08-31 01:12:45 UTC
I'd have to know how you set your "safe spots" before this becomes mysterious to me. Cool

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Demetheer
Cthulhu in your pod
#11 - 2016-08-31 06:44:55 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
I'd have to know how you set your "safe spots" before this becomes mysterious to me. Cool



in warp ctrl-B , multiple warp multiple ctrl-B and again between location bookmarked.



Denavit wrote:
leyend sais that if you are scanned in warp, they get your landing point, maybe it has to do with that


If thats the case it would make a lot of sense on what happened.


In all case, if you guys tell me its possible under drugs/rigs/ or just cheer pilot skills, thats all fair enough and well done to the pilot!
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#12 - 2016-08-31 06:54:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Soel Reit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2016-08-31 07:14:10 UTC
the scan system is built for this task.
so it's kinda strange it works how it should Shocked

jokes aside, people that use combat scanner probes out there regularly are very good at it.
catching a capital for them is easy af.
they can even catch things as battleships etc.

on youtube you can find many videos of this happening!
obviously it requires high skills SP but nonetheless they are very good.
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2016-08-31 08:56:07 UTC
Easy to explain: capitals warp painfully slow and have big sigs ... the prober/onyx just followed you in 10s probe+warp steps. Finally they were somewhat lucky to catch your final destination before you could hit cloak. Slow warp also means slow deceleration and sub-warp speed. You were fu**** the moment you landed in system without a friendly POS/Citadel.

I'm my own NPC alt.

Serene Repose
#15 - 2016-08-31 10:18:26 UTC
Humans are creatures of habit. They also prefer the line of least resistance. This is why safe spots (which are far from safe) are often created on the disk of the two-dimensionally imagined system between a common departure point along the route of a "convenient" warp to item and to that item. Anyone frequenting a system can bookmark along the same route(s) and have this readily at hand, selecting along the trajectory upon which the prey has bolted. (You make your own luck in this life.)

Your response was...rather unclear with regard to this. I think it's highly likely your pursuer had a bookmark at the same location...more likely than that he was just lucky - or juggled half a dozen things instantly and expertly. It could just be he did his homework. SO, I just had to ask. Smile

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

William Legrand-Marx
Nemesis Ad Astra
#16 - 2016-08-31 10:51:14 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Doc would venture a guess you've used that safe spot before.









Speaking in 3rd person is a sign of ...

There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...

Soel Reit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2016-08-31 10:53:01 UTC
William Legrand-Marx wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Doc would venture a guess you've used that safe spot before.









Speaking in 3rd person is a sign of ...



greatness!!!!!!!! Cool
William Legrand-Marx
Nemesis Ad Astra
#18 - 2016-08-31 11:11:34 UTC
Soel Reit wrote:
William Legrand-Marx wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Doc would venture a guess you've used that safe spot before.









Speaking in 3rd person is a sign of ...



greatness!!!!!!!! Cool


no. Illeism and it's narcissistic, self-obsessed, detached from reality nature. Snowflake gona have triggering in 3... 2... 1...

There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2016-08-31 11:24:54 UTC
William Legrand-Marx wrote:
Soel Reit wrote:
William Legrand-Marx wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Doc would venture a guess you've used that safe spot before.









Speaking in 3rd person is a sign of ...



greatness!!!!!!!! Cool


no. Illeism and it's narcissistic, self-obsessed, detached from reality nature. Snowflake gona have triggering in 3... 2... 1...


Your lack of self-awareness is incredibly amusing.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#20 - 2016-08-31 11:58:25 UTC
William Legrand-Marx wrote:

no. Illeism and it's narcissistic, self-obsessed, detached from reality nature. Snowflake gona have triggering in 3... 2... 1...




I thought you were talking about Doc Fury, not yourself? Strange.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

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