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New idea for link / fleet boosts changes, a simpler implementation
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Idame Isqua
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-08-30 04:19:16 UTC
i was thinking last night before reading the blogs and other information giving out by CCP

they should make a new command slot for command and capital ships

now having read what CCP wants to do, my idea seems even better than usual


So for example
M Command unit it fits in a new M command slot on cruisers and BCs
These command units are fitted like a ship
with all these new things, kinda like plugging in a little ship to your big ship

cause these changes seem like a good excuse to get a carrier pilot, but its still rubbish having to gimp your fit just to fit gimped links ya know

obviously theirs a bit more worked involved in this
but it seems like a cleaner way for CCP to implement the changes and flexibility CCP wants

Just to reinforce my point
CCP is giving capital ships excellent fleet boosting capabilities, and this should be applauded
but if I go and get a carrier pilot, I will have to have one carrier fit for combat and one fit for links

with this new module slot and new plug in unit its easier and better
I'm not saying boosting ships shouldn't have reduced combat capabilities, but having it work like a module I can turn on and off in a new slot, lets me fit for PvP and boosting, but only lets me carry out one role at a time
The Receptionist
Novartis Corporation.
#2 - 2016-08-30 04:26:33 UTC
Idame Isqua wrote:
kinda like plugging in a little ship to your big ship


I'll have what you're smoking please
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#3 - 2016-08-30 22:46:01 UTC
The Receptionist wrote:

I'll have what you're smoking please

It's not actually the worst idea when you think about it. Design your command suite. Then just slot your designed command suite into your ship.
It's like games where you can modify different parts on a weapon. Then your weapon goes into your weapon slot.

But why not just have 3 or 4 'Command' Slots on your ship instead, when dealing with EVE style game play.
It's not like everything else on your ship is similarly sub modified.
Idame Isqua
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2016-08-31 04:10:06 UTC
Well yes I think command slots should exist

My suggestion of the ship in ship is based more upon CCP wanting to retain the (unnecessary complexity) of fitting a command ship.

Real game examples
All links boats in general are fit the same
Theirs no evidence upcoming changes will effect the uniformity of links ships
So if they are all the same anyway
Why have options that just make it more complex for no reason

Now the new meta it seems involves having a crappy ship in a fleet that has a weaker fit because it has links fit

Now you might have 1 ship with all the links
Or more likely you will spread the links over many ships to limit the gimp
Which is what CCP thinks will happen and will be a good game

However if I'm flying a 30 man battleship fleet
Do I really want 5 command ships that are already significantly weaker than my line ships, most likely weaker than my logistics ships. And contributing no worthwhile DPS

Or do I really want 1 command ship that's going to be keeping out of danger anyway, and no more vulnerable to PvP than it was before.

So the point is
nones going to take links in to die
they wont be any less safe in the majority of situations under 30vs30

for fleet boosting caps its not about having them "more at risk" its about having a permanerfed ship

So currently CCP has said something like
we will be fitting less links in highslots but they will be multipurpose
something about allowing the +1 module to be placed in highs and lows to remove the imbalance between armor and shields
and something about a rig that sounds important enough to be a massive pain
but essentially zero major changes
links tengus will still be supreme in the majority of situations
as if the fights too big for a tengu to boost at zero risk it will be to big for a command ship to boost (and survive)
as command ships are still wayyyyyyyyy more of a DPS sink being easier to catch and a bigger slower target


moving all this command stuff into a separate slot solves all the problems
makes links more uniform I guess which gives CCP more control over the balance
a system like that is a must to prevent more ccplease moments like tengu links master racing over command ships
while also making links capitals something easily switchable (burning capital sized rigs sounds expensive)
Brokk Witgenstein
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2016-08-31 04:13:41 UTC
This does not sound simple. At all.

I think my brain hurts- thanks a lot for that.