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Lanny Barbie Doomheim Likes received: 0	#1 - 2016-08-22 20:41:00 UTC \| Edited by: Lanny Barbie Hardest passive tank?

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Zoltan Lazar Likes received: 278	#2 - 2016-08-22 21:08:31 UTC 2 Passive tank or buffer tank? And why? Typically if a transport ship gets caught it's dead, EHP doesn't really matter. And cloak tank is best tank.

Sobaan Tali

Caldari Quick Reaction Force

Likes received: 1,256

#3 - 2016-08-22 21:31:46 UTC

I've heard the Bustard can get a nasty tank. Don't know if that's still the case, though I don't doubt it. Friend of mine from a few years back use to bait tank in missions (before the AI was altered) with a Bustard and a gank fit Kronos.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."

The Scope Gallente Federation 936
Soel Reit The Scope Gallente Federation Likes received: 936	#4 - 2016-08-22 21:46:50 UTC impel - for armor bustard - for shield good luck

Paranoid Loyd

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#5 - 2016-08-22 22:11:13 UTC | Edited by: Paranoid Loyd

Zoltan Lazar wrote:

Typically if a transport ship gets caught it's dead, EHP doesn't really matter.

You're not wrong in general, but if there is anemic DPS on the field you may be able to save yourself by running back to the gate/station/wh, in this case, the more buffer the better, then again an active tank will accomplish the same. However the basis of this question is mostly likely highsec hauling and avoiding getting ganked, in this case as well, the more buffer the better and an active tank is less effective.

Assuming you meant buffer:

Soel Reit wrote:

bustard - for shield

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6572953#post6572953

Haven't tried all that hard, but getting anywhere near that with an Impel is considerably more difficult due to low slots being used for armor instead of bulkheads not to mention the relative power requirements for 1600mm plates.

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Valkin Mordirc

Likes received: 2,991

#6 - 2016-08-22 22:28:42 UTC

[Bustard, Troll Bustard fit]

Caldari Navy Shield Power Relay
Caldari Navy Shield Power Relay
Caldari Navy Shield Power Relay

Gistum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Gistum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Republic Fleet Shield Recharger
Republic Fleet Shield Recharger
Republic Fleet Shield Recharger
Republic Fleet Shield Recharger

[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II

I have no idea to passive tank but for a mere 1.65bisk you can tank 1450 dps passively.

#DeleteTheWeak

Scotsman Howard

S0utherN Comfort

Likes received: 183

#7 - 2016-08-25 19:43:35 UTC

Valkin Mordirc wrote:

Not at home to fit this, but drop one or two of the mids shield rechargers for extenders I bet would give you more.

Zhilia Mann

Tide Way Out Productions

Likes received: 3,040

#8 - 2016-08-25 20:31:22 UTC

Scotsman Howard wrote:

Not at home to fit this, but drop one or two of the mids shield rechargers for extenders I bet would give you more.

Also, the rigs need to be two purgers and the invulns pithum not gistum. Like so:

[Bustard, Troll Bustard fit even better]
Caldari Navy Shield Power Relay
Caldari Navy Shield Power Relay
Caldari Navy Shield Power Relay

Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender
Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender
Pith X-Type EM Ward Field
Republic Fleet Shield Recharger

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II

4857 overheated. Cap lasts 32 minutes. 362k EHP overheated. 1811/143k with no overheat.

Full passive would look like this:

[Bustard, Troll Bustard fit fully passive]
Caldari Navy Shield Power Relay
Caldari Navy Shield Power Relay
Caldari Navy Shield Power Relay

Pithum A-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Pithum A-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender
Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender
Pithum A-Type Explosive Deflection Amplifier
Pithum A-Type Kinetic Deflection Amplifier

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II

929 forever. 93k EHP.

ShahFluffers

Ice Fire Warriors

Likes received: 11,726

#9 - 2016-08-25 20:32:16 UTC | Edited by: ShahFluffers

With all skills set to max in EFT, I got this:

[Impel, AFK Buffer Tank]
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Thermal Membrane II
1600mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Reactor Control Unit II
Reactor Control Unit II

[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I

- 170,000 effective hitpoints
- Armor Resistances are: 80% EM / 84% Thermal / 85% Kinetic / 92% Explosive
- Aligns in about 20 seconds.
- max speed is about 128 m/sec

You will not get anywhere fast... but it will take a minimum of 30 suicide ganking destroyers to kill this thing.
This puts you out of reach for most ganking groups. Only those who specialize in ganking Freighters will be a threat to you.

How did you Veterans start?

Zansha Expansion 1,739
elitatwo Zansha Expansion Likes received: 1,739	#10 - 2016-08-26 06:05:40 UTC ShahFluffers wrote: ...Shah's tanky impel fit.... And if you would use a-type eanms and a faction plate? Dammit Zhilia, you beat me to it. Valkin dear, it's always the pith for active tanks with the higher resist. The gist ones are the capacitor friendly ones. Eve Minions is recruiting. This is the law of ship progression! Aura sound-clips: Aura forever

Zhilia Mann

Tide Way Out Productions

Likes received: 3,040

#11 - 2016-08-26 20:53:08 UTC

ShahFluffers wrote:

Did you put slaves on that thing? I'm only seeing 113k EHP.

If you take the same thing and spend out your ass you get:

[Impel, AFK Buffer Tank more spendy than cargo]
Syndicate Damage Control
Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Corpum A-Type Energized Thermal Membrane
Syndicate 1600mm Steel Plates
Reactor Control Unit II
Power Diagnostic System II

[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II

177k EHP before slaves, which you'd better have if that's your fit. 260k with high grades.

Reinhardt Kreiss

TetraVaal Tactical Group

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#12 - 2016-08-27 07:42:43 UTC | Edited by: Reinhardt Kreiss

"Passive" doesn't mix well with active hardeners and while I'm sure the above fits are funky and hilarious, they're not exactly realistic or relevant.

Here's a realistic fit for a passive/afk Transport, the Bustard is better than the Impel in regards to dealing with kin/therm (for obvious reasons) which are the most widely used damage types amongst gankers. In overall resists and EHP the Impel is better but realistically kin/therm seems to be what matters most.

A complete, cheap and cheerful, fit with MWD & cloak. One that makes sense.

[Bustard, Tanked]
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II

50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Large Shield Extender II
Medium F-S9 Regolith Compact Shield Extender
EM Ward Amplifier II
Thermal Dissipation Amplifier II
Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II

Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I
Improved Cloaking Device II

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Zan Shiro

Doomheim

Likes received: 900

#13 - 2016-08-29 21:55:22 UTC

Agility rigs and mods...go for the BR's. An alternate goal is to be clear off the gate to not even take fire in the first place. Faster align times makes that happen Cloak as a backup to that.

Crane (hauler alt trained caldari for Charon and stayed in family since a shake and bake train) run like this what I used for low sec runs as well as empire now. Crane not even the best stats for this (not a lot of lows for agility mods) but no issues even in low sec. Made quite a few runs dropping off stuff when cap friends could hook me up jumping stuff to 0.0 for me. Catch was I had to get it to their low sec pickup point.

Caveat...you lose cargo space. Judgement call as to whether more m3 is worth it that may die...or less M3 that starts to get down to more instalock like levels to not even be tackled/attacked and gets you to where you are going.

case of shield BR's (crane) run t2 passive resists for at least the resist hole. Cover you ass move, such as it is anyway, if smarties in play.

Zhilia Mann

Tide Way Out Productions

Likes received: 3,040

#14 - 2016-08-29 22:40:10 UTC

Zan Shiro wrote:

Yeah, I tend to agree. I have two characters trained into Gallente transports and one into Amarr. I really like Viators, but I also spend a bit of time in an Impel for larger hauls. Occators never really got me and Prorators don't seem as versatile as Viators.

Valkin Mordirc

Likes received: 2,991

#15 - 2016-08-29 23:50:34 UTC

elitatwo wrote:

ShahFluffers wrote:

...Shah's tanky impel fit....

Valkin dear, it's always the pith for active tanks with the higher resist. The gist ones are the capacitor friendly ones.

Yeah I know, just sometimes I forget and just randomly throw **** together.

The fit was just a bloop *PASSIVE TANK* Sorta post with absolutely no intention of ever it being a real fit.

Plus side I've learned how to actually passive tank. =P

#DeleteTheWeak


elitatwo Zansha Expansion Likes received: 1,739	#16 - 2016-08-30 00:55:06 UTC Eve Minions is recruiting. This is the law of ship progression! Aura sound-clips: Aura forever

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Mephiztopheleze Laphroaig Inc. Likes received: 1,309	#17 - 2016-08-30 00:59:43 UTC Zan Shiro wrote: case of shield BR's (crane) run t2 passive resists for at least the resist hole.... A Blockade Runner's tank is its CovOps Cloak. If you're getting shot at in a BR, you're probably dead. Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze This is my Forum Main. My Combat Alt is sambo Inkura


ShahFluffers Ice Fire Warriors Likes received: 11,726	#18 - 2016-08-30 01:20:31 UTC Zhilia Mann wrote: Did you put slaves on that thing? I'm only seeing 113k EHP. Mother******!!!! How the hell did those things get on that fit? It was a new template too! How did you Veterans start?

Zhilia Mann

Tide Way Out Productions

Likes received: 3,040

#19 - 2016-08-30 01:32:45 UTC

Mephiztopheleze wrote:

Zan Shiro wrote:

case of shield BR's (crane) run t2 passive resists for at least the resist hole....

A Blockade Runner's tank is its CovOps Cloak.

If you're getting shot at in a BR, you're probably dead.

It's not about getting shot. I token tank any BR I'm taking into low (which for means tends to mean Aridia) in case of smartbombs. It's not much but it gives a slight bit of buffer.

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Varcutii Renalard Likes received: 65	#20 - 2016-08-30 23:49:32 UTC Can you still get a Bustard to explode if you so much as look at it the wrong way in WH / J-Space?

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