EVE General Discussion

Because it reads as she were complaining mostly about rl and not about the game.

Also. Freud was Austrian.

Complaining about rl rather than Eve makes someone a sociopath?

That's the basis you're going with?

It's okay. I like how your face even looks german.

Let's not forget that it's a heavy topic. :)

Though it's unavoidable people will see rl mirroring in it ...
... but that is simply unavoidable due to the nature of the topic.

Yeah but that's all there is to it.
It's a detail you rip out of every and all context, which is useless.

We talk about things your mind blocks thanks to this thought.

And now i'll wait for proper responses to my last on-topic posts ...
... and you're free to join in if you have something to say that has hand and foot. :)

TIL I learned that Austria doesn't speak German.


Sorry Sol. No more off topic from me.

yaaaaAAAAWWWWWNNNNnnnnnn...where's the remote?

Those who think overmuch about life then attempt to convince others that they, too, should spend their days thinking about life rarely actually live life. The self appointed intellectual elite spin their webs of violence and deceit with ne'er a day spent in productive labor, then sneer when the peasants storm the universities with pitchforks and torches, and only lose their superior airs when the pitchforks are rammed up their intellectual asses.

Just to add some more - this topic has got to do with core principles and vision of EVE. I don't want to be too divisive, but for some EVE is 'just a game', which I guess is correct, but what game is this and is it heading towards now? A mish/mash of tactical space ship shooter slash RTS? A Tycoon series in space? Civilisation series set in space where each unit is player controlled? (Yet we still get the 'stack of doom').

Yes EVE is a game and there are necessities for 'game balance' and to help subscription and retention rates and all that - but for those who remember, eve had a vision of being a 'life in space'. The game balance passes and mechanics tweaks, they may improve eve as a 'game', but somewhere along the way it becomes less like a 'life in space, and more like a 'space ship game'.

Yeah, you were defending the state. You were indirectly defending the current system of fake, false, shallow peace. It's like people only see this detail, ignoring all the long time negative consequences of having people blindly obey authority without the ability to defend themselves.

Anyhow...

"Anarchy is the condition of a society, entity, group of people, or a single person that rejects illegitimate hierarchies." straight from the english wiki, but i believe the german one - as often - is more accurate. Yet, that's pretty much it.

Not "lack of organizational structures", but "lack of illegitimate hierarchies", like for example that human part of the EU no one ever voted for. Yeah it's not the same! People get together in communities, because it increases their chance of survival. Some will guard, some will cook, some will help taling care of children, some will go and hunt for food.


"Also, I'm actually all about personal responsibility and the sense that we are empowered people, not empowered societi"
If that was true you'd not support a system that turns societies into what is currently happening. Yet you do, which means you're throwing around words in a shallow sense with nothing behind it.

If you were for empowered people, you wouldn't accept the status quo, which is exactly the opposite. People aren't empowered, they're breastfed food, happyness and distraction. They grow up as consumers, identifying with crap they buy because marketing - for decades now - teaches children that when they buy x it'll be y. Survival instincts are being replaced by the need for money to not only stay alive, but also to hunt for imaginary status.

And all of that under the control of the state. Everyone is at peace, while everyone hates everyone else.
No one is able to protect himself, everyone depends on the state to protect him.

You do not in any way or form show that you'd want people to be empowered and take self responsibility.
The opposite is the fact. You support a system that aims at taking away as much self responsbility as possible.

Or are you seriously going to deny that this happens, today, with so many people even on the forums showing the mindset of a slave who obeys big brother, because he promises to protect them? Are you going to?

Deny that there are people out there who can only behave like the assholes they are BECAUSE of this protection? Deny tnat these degenerates will breed even worse degenerates?

You're either a liar, extremely oppinionated, or you just have no clue about where you really stand.

And if you were up 2 date you'd know that total control is absolutely achievable with today's technology. Hell, "internet of things" screams it all over the place. No, you don't know better. Your opinion on the matter is irrelevant if you can't get your facts straight... and you know that.

Anyway: Thank you for your post. :)


PS: almost forgot:
"You really haven't shown me the benefit of what you are proposing or even fully defined it."

If that benefit isn't obvious to you then first you have to leave that box of yours.
There are many, actually, and i sure as hell will go into them once i decide to do so.

The lord is a tyrant who demands to be worshipped and demands that people deny their sexuality. He rules through fear, because when you don't follow the rules you'll suffer for eternity.

Your Lord is just another system of oppression where someone or some few stand at the top and rule over the bottom.