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Every year, there are less users playing, why??

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Solecist Project
#1581 - 2016-08-21 03:44:24 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:

ive seen ezwal refer to these as "lighting rod" threads,
make of that what you will

i was thinking this. ^_^
Forever burnt into my memory...

And yours, apparently... :D

Works though, and not just on us trolls either.
i have seen a couple of potential shinaniganisers get threads through without the ag lads jumping down tjeir throghts because they were buisy here.

Shinaniganisers! :D

i really wish those self righteous dorks wouldn't be so horrible people ...
... but one goes with the other, so .... #PODLIFEMATTERS

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Discordia Duenna
Perkone
Caldari State
#1582 - 2016-08-21 09:28:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Discordia Duenna
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Discordia Duenna wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Not sure if you've played the game lately but it literally sucks balls.

PvE is a turd.

PvP is non-existent unless you consider 10 x svipul and 5 garmurs vs anything easy to kill pvp. Anything not easy to kill they simply fly away till they find something easy to kill.



Haven't people always tried to fly away? Didn't you found Privateers? iirc it was 10 x t1 dessies and 5 Falcons back then right? :P

You are right though PvE is a turd, needs more variety and randomness to it, so people have to think more on their feet.

People have always tried to fly away and people have always tried to stop them.

CCP create balance though, in terms of hull size, speed and dps, damage application and tank.

The smallest ships such as the interceptor were very fast, could kite but did little damage or could brawl but needed to take a scram, they popped at the slightest damage.

The larger ships could do more dps, but were slower, to do max dps they needed to get scrammed.

There was a balance. No balance anymore so all I'm seeing in space are disposable t1's because of the above or T3D's and Garmurs.


I have to admit I agree with this, but also Gilas, Gilas everywhere.

On the other hand, we do actually see people using t1's. Noobs are able to feel like they aren't surrounded by a sea of t2 and logging off for weeks while they wait for the skills everyone says are mandatory to having fun. Horde bring alot of t1, they have a lot of fun doing so too. But I see your point, the BS class is now in a very sorry state, stuck in a no mans land of capitals that finally can defend themselves against subcaps (great change tbh) and cruisers that simply have better kiting prospects and applied dps.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1583 - 2016-08-21 10:01:26 UTC
Discordia Duenna wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Discordia Duenna wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Not sure if you've played the game lately but it literally sucks balls.

PvE is a turd.

PvP is non-existent unless you consider 10 x svipul and 5 garmurs vs anything easy to kill pvp. Anything not easy to kill they simply fly away till they find something easy to kill.



Haven't people always tried to fly away? Didn't you found Privateers? iirc it was 10 x t1 dessies and 5 Falcons back then right? :P

You are right though PvE is a turd, needs more variety and randomness to it, so people have to think more on their feet.

People have always tried to fly away and people have always tried to stop them.

CCP create balance though, in terms of hull size, speed and dps, damage application and tank.

The smallest ships such as the interceptor were very fast, could kite but did little damage or could brawl but needed to take a scram, they popped at the slightest damage.

The larger ships could do more dps, but were slower, to do max dps they needed to get scrammed.

There was a balance. No balance anymore so all I'm seeing in space are disposable t1's because of the above or T3D's and Garmurs.


I have to admit I agree with this, but also Gilas, Gilas everywhere.

On the other hand, we do actually see people using t1's. Noobs are able to feel like they aren't surrounded by a sea of t2 and logging off for weeks while they wait for the skills everyone says are mandatory to having fun. Horde bring alot of t1, they have a lot of fun doing so too. But I see your point, the BS class is now in a very sorry state, stuck in a no mans land of capitals that finally can defend themselves against subcaps (great change tbh) and cruisers that simply have better kiting prospects and applied dps.

Yeah Horde is awesome. Never met so many people who could care less about getting blown up non-stop :)

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#1584 - 2016-08-21 10:23:12 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:

ive seen ezwal refer to these as "lighting rod" threads,
make of that what you will

i was thinking this. ^_^
Forever burnt into my memory...

And yours, apparently... :D

Works though, and not just on us trolls either.
i have seen a couple of potential shinaniganisers get threads through without the ag lads jumping down tjeir throghts because they were buisy here.



Are you OK?

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Solecist Project
#1585 - 2016-08-21 11:35:01 UTC
Sorry, we don't speak to people who put getting ganked and getting raped on an equal level.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#1586 - 2016-08-21 22:25:53 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Sorry, we don't speak to people who put getting ganked and getting raped on an equal level.



Most people still make the connection, in spite of the galighitng your kind does. That's why they play something else.


Hence this thread.

It struck me the other day, being busy as usual, that the kind of person who has all day to think about messing up someone else's game is the kind of person that is already not being missed IRL and won't be missed in this game either. Ask anybody who left Eve and they won't remember the names of the people they didn't like.


Until CCP gets the rot out that has sided with the easy-kill community and decides to pull some serious changes to save Eve from mediocrity, it will continue to linger on, with the likes of you shitpoasting as if it made a difference.

Or maybe it makes a difference to you, a difference that the world would never know, and a difference nobody else could care about.


All hail, Solecist! Winner of the Eve Online Forums!!!

What forum?


*** END TRANSMISSION ***


Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Solecist Project
#1587 - 2016-08-21 22:30:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
Well, that was an angry person upset about how he can't equate ganking to ****.
I guess, indeed, for not thinking like this I am rot.

And you're a perfectly good person by calling other people rot.

I must admit that was one of the most well formulated and coldhearted tearpost I've ever read.
You even ended with END TRANSMISSION just so you can put an end to it ... makes you look weak.


You really suck as a human being.
And whenever I'll see you, I will make sure people understand that you equate ganking with ****.

Well done.


Have a nice day. :)

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Sunshyn LaBlond
Heathen Souls
#1588 - 2016-08-21 22:45:51 UTC
One or two dudes completely run Eve now. Not even players, just some guy that owns a gaming casino. So much for us players having any meaningful impact on the sandbox. Just get rich running a casino and you too can bend this game to your whims.

I didn't shed a tear over the Goons losing their empire, but it was an empire that took years of people working together to build. Torn down in a couple months by bad mechanics and a dude with a gambling site snapping his fingers. That doesn't bode well for anyone and certainly shatters any illusion of making an impact on this game.

As long as CCP continues to force terrible mechanics on us, and allow RMT'ers and gambling site owners to dominate the game, it's going to be a hard sell to get anyone interested in playing. Anyone that had the notion of being the next player to be profiled in Playboy or WSJ better not waste their time actually playing Eve, and just set up a competing casino site instead.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#1589 - 2016-08-21 23:29:05 UTC
Sunshyn LaBlond wrote:
One or two dudes completely run Eve now. Not even players, just some guy that owns a gaming casino. So much for us players having any meaningful impact on the sandbox. Just get rich running a casino and you too can bend this game to your whims.

I didn't shed a tear over the Goons losing their empire, but it was an empire that took years of people working together to build. Torn down in a couple months by bad mechanics and a dude with a gambling site snapping his fingers. That doesn't bode well for anyone and certainly shatters any illusion of making an impact on this game.

As long as CCP continues to force terrible mechanics on us, and allow RMT'ers and gambling site owners to dominate the game, it's going to be a hard sell to get anyone interested in playing. Anyone that had the notion of being the next player to be profiled in Playboy or WSJ better not waste their time actually playing Eve, and just set up a competing casino site instead.


Really?

You are espousing the sanctity of the sandbox, while deriding those who have simply taken advantage of it within the present rules.


/Doc would otherwise welcome a ban on out of game services for isk, but that is unlikely to happen.



There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Maekchu
Doomheim
#1590 - 2016-08-21 23:40:18 UTC
Sunshyn LaBlond wrote:
As long as CCP continues to force terrible mechanics on us, and allow RMT'ers and gambling site owners to dominate the game, it's going to be a hard sell to get anyone interested in playing.

Cause a gambling site owner that financed a major war, has any influence on the common EvE player just flying around space doing some pew. /sarcasm

That post of yours stink of jealousy.
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#1591 - 2016-08-22 06:08:27 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Sorry, we don't speak to people who put getting ganked and getting raped on an equal level.



Most people still make the connection, in spite of the galighitng your kind does. That's why they play something else.


Hence this thread.

It struck me the other day, being busy as usual, that the kind of person who has all day to think about messing up someone else's game is the kind of person that is already not being missed IRL and won't be missed in this game either. Ask anybody who left Eve and they won't remember the names of the people they didn't like.


Until CCP gets the rot out that has sided with the easy-kill community and decides to pull some serious changes to save Eve from mediocrity, it will continue to linger on, with the likes of you shitpoasting as if it made a difference.

Or maybe it makes a difference to you, a difference that the world would never know, and a difference nobody else could care about.


All hail, Solecist! Winner of the Eve Online Forums!!!

What forum?


*** END TRANSMISSION ***




SadCry

o7

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

xxxTRUSTxxx
Galactic Rangers
#1592 - 2016-08-22 07:20:48 UTC  |  Edited by: xxxTRUSTxxx
Sunshyn LaBlond wrote:


So much for us players having any meaningful impact on the sandbox.


ok so ya need it broken down barney style,, no problem.

player A gets a loan of ISK from player B

player A tells player B to feck himself when it comes to paying it back.

player B pays players to shoot player A's mates in the face for this.

players from all areas join in on the fun, it all escalates Roll as it does in EVE.

so where do you see players not playing a meaningful part in the sand box?

you want lifeguards to build walls around your sand castle when the tide comes in. hahahahaha lol never going to happen and when it does,, game over man,, game over!
Viktor Amarr
#1593 - 2016-08-22 07:27:25 UTC
Sunshyn LaBlond wrote:
So much for us players having any meaningful impact on the sandbox.


"Other people do better in this sandbox than me, mostly because they put in more effort. This clearly shows that the sandbox is wrong!".


Drago Shouna
Doomheim
#1594 - 2016-08-22 07:55:06 UTC
Viktor Amarr wrote:
Sunshyn LaBlond wrote:
So much for us players having any meaningful impact on the sandbox.


"Other people do better in this sandbox than me, mostly because they put in more effort. This clearly shows that the sandbox is wrong!".





So you're just here to troll others rather than adding to the discussion or coming up with any meaningful suggestions?

But what's new, you're doing it on several threads atm.....

Solecist Project...." They refuse to play by the rules and laws of the game and use it as excuse ..." " They don't care about how you play as long as they get to play how they want."

Welcome to EVE.

March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1595 - 2016-08-22 12:39:48 UTC
Maekchu wrote:
Sunshyn LaBlond wrote:
As long as CCP continues to force terrible mechanics on us, and allow RMT'ers and gambling site owners to dominate the game, it's going to be a hard sell to get anyone interested in playing.

Cause a gambling site owner that financed a major war, has any influence on the common EvE player just flying around space doing some pew. /sarcasm

That post of yours stink of jealousy.

It might be because he is not happy with being 'common EVE player just flying around space doing some pew'.

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Maekchu
Doomheim
#1596 - 2016-08-22 12:52:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Maekchu
March rabbit wrote:
Maekchu wrote:
Sunshyn LaBlond wrote:
As long as CCP continues to force terrible mechanics on us, and allow RMT'ers and gambling site owners to dominate the game, it's going to be a hard sell to get anyone interested in playing.

Cause a gambling site owner that financed a major war, has any influence on the common EvE player just flying around space doing some pew. /sarcasm

That post of yours stink of jealousy.

It might be because he is not happy with being 'common EVE player just flying around space doing some pew'.

Then he should probably put some effort into not being the 'common EvE player flying around space doing some pew'. It's a sandbox. In EvE there is no 'grind to lvl100, roll some legends and roflstomp some puppies, while the whole server is in awe of your e-peen'.

It's like how people want to be rich and famous in real life, but doesn't really want to put in any effort and then they blame the 'system' cause they cannot achieve their goal.

But again, it's so much easier just to ask for nerfs and stuff instead of putting in some effort.
Solecist Project
#1597 - 2016-08-22 14:27:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
"One or two dudes completely run Eve now. Not even players, just some guy that owns a gaming casino. "

Okay so if it's so easy just some guy can do it, you should be doing it too.
Because it's not hard at all. There's no work and real life involved in it.

Not in programming, not in setting up servers, not in maintenance, not in fixing bugs,
not in sending out payments, not in customer service. Null. Nada.

It's apparently so easy, everyone can do it.

...

The fact that losers bash on successfull people ...
... shows how bad it has become already.



Envy.
It's a *****.



Edit: .... beaten by maekchu. lol

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Logan Revelore
Symbiotic Systems
#1598 - 2016-08-23 18:00:16 UTC
Denavit wrote:
Is is because PLEX prices, i remember buying them at 550mill, 500mill, now is almost 1bill, or is it because the changes are making oldSchoolers quit?


The game simply isn't up to modern standards.
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#1599 - 2016-08-23 18:05:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Dirty Forum Alt
Logan Revelore wrote:
The game simply isn't up to modern standards.
Which standards would those be then?

You know what CCP could do to really bring EVE up to *modern* game "standards"? They could just claim it has been an early-release beta all these years - and will actually be released "soon"(tm). Problem solved Blink

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)

Solecist Project
#1600 - 2016-08-23 18:19:39 UTC
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Logan Revelore wrote:
The game simply isn't up to modern standards.
Which standards would those be then?

You know what CCP could do to really bring EVE up to *modern* game "standards"? They could just claim it has been an early-release beta all these years - and will actually be released "soon"(tm). Problem solved Blink

the standards of using neuroscience to deliberately attract certain types of people to get them to pay money.
Despite being seemingly complex in regards to translating it into proper game-play ...
... how it works can be roughly summarized in several lines.

Unless I write it! Then it's at least 3000 chars and that's actually low by my own standards...........

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia