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CCPlease > Niarja & Uedama = lowsec systems with ban for +supers
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Callitari Mundani
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2016-08-21 13:39:13 UTC
Hello,

Niarja & Uedama are "Hi-sec systems", there is already too much ganking around which limits the anti-ganker pilots to reactive actions, I suggest we do these systems lowsec so we could have fun all day long.

Everybody is ganking there, using the stations freely without any issues, sec status is non-sense - let's have a brawl! Cut the hisec connections between the market hubs, that would be GREAT fun! It will open full range of new possibilities for gankers / anti-gankers alike.

Haulers could start to pay for protection, make alliances, etc ...
Using the current configuration, gankers are in a great advantage - time to reballance that!
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2 - 2016-08-21 13:41:32 UTC
Yeah not going to happen.

Highsec's for everyone, including the routes between trade hubs.

IB4L

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Callitari Mundani
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#3 - 2016-08-21 13:44:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Callitari Mundani
Lowsec systems are for everyone aswell, making two systems lowsec doesn't mean that theyt won't be for everyone anymore. Your argument is illogical.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#4 - 2016-08-21 13:45:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
The main reason that gankers have an advantage is that people are apathetic and/or lazy.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#5 - 2016-08-21 13:45:57 UTC
Callitari Mundani wrote:
Lowsec systems are for everyone aswell, making two systems lowsec doesn't mean that won't be for everyone anymore. Your argument is illogical.

Yeah, there's tonnes of freighters moving through lowsec systems.

This is just a stupid thread.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#6 - 2016-08-21 13:53:08 UTC
Anti-ganker calling for a highsec system to be turned lowsec... Shocked Now I've seen it all.
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#7 - 2016-08-21 13:58:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
The main reason that gankers have an advantage is that people are apathetic and/or lazy.


Yesterday I went out with some anti-gankers for some fun, first couple of hours was stopping a Vexor ganker from plying his trade, nothing was ganked while I was sitting there in a Phobus with his loot scooper pre-locked.

After that I heard of an event in Mad, someone had got a warp in with a ganker with 1 ISK KR, so I went to kill him, but he went for a gank and someone took it...

Then I went and sat in a station leaving my alt in Niarja, to find a blackbird pointing a Fenrrir, I jumped into a repping ship then headed there getting my alt into a rep ship too, then I called for a response. We got enough logi in system and on the freighter in time so that when the gank fleet came in the numbers were against them, then the person who was being bumped brought in DST's and a ton of logi. The gankers gave up having lost 4 Stealth Bombers warping around the system. The freighter pilot concerned made a healthy donation to the AG players who first reacted.

Neither he or the AG players were apathetic or lazy, we congratulated him on his play, he played Eve perfectly...

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#8 - 2016-08-21 14:06:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Lulu Lunette
I like the idea of a decentralized New Eden so making each trade hub or empire region its own high sec island could be pretty cool

Nerf Jita!

@lunettelulu7
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#9 - 2016-08-21 14:06:14 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
The main reason that gankers have an advantage is that people are apathetic and/or lazy.


Yesterday I went out with some anti-gankers for some fun, first couple of hours was stopping a Vexor ganker from plying his trade, nothing was ganked while I was sitting there in a Phobus with his loot scooper pre-locked.

After that I heard of an event in Mad, someone had got a warp in with a ganker with 1 ISK KR, so I went to kill him, but he went for a gank and someone took it...

Then I went and sat in a station leaving my alt in Niarja, to find a blackbird pointing a Fenrrir, I jumped into a repping ship then headed there getting my alt into a rep ship too, then I called for a response. We got enough logi in system and on the freighter in time so that when the gank fleet came in the numbers were against them, then the person who was being bumped brought in DST's and a ton of logi. The gankers gave up having lost 4 Stealth Bombers warping around the system. The freighter pilot concerned made a healthy donation to the AG players who first reacted.

Neither he or the AG players were apathetic or lazy, we congratulated him on his play, he played Eve perfectly...
Did I mention anybody specific?

Despite your little anecdote the fact remains that a large proportion of hisec residents are apathetic and/or lazy.

Congrats on a successful op btw.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#10 - 2016-08-21 14:10:16 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
The main reason that gankers have an advantage is that people are apathetic and/or lazy.


Yesterday I went out with some anti-gankers for some fun, first couple of hours was stopping a Vexor ganker from plying his trade, nothing was ganked while I was sitting there in a Phobus with his loot scooper pre-locked.

After that I heard of an event in Mad, someone had got a warp in with a ganker with 1 ISK KR, so I went to kill him, but he went for a gank and someone took it...

Then I went and sat in a station leaving my alt in Niarja, to find a blackbird pointing a Fenrrir, I jumped into a repping ship then headed there getting my alt into a rep ship too, then I called for a response. We got enough logi in system and on the freighter in time so that when the gank fleet came in the numbers were against them, then the person who was being bumped brought in DST's and a ton of logi. The gankers gave up having lost 4 Stealth Bombers warping around the system. The freighter pilot concerned made a healthy donation to the AG players who first reacted.

Neither he or the AG players were apathetic or lazy, we congratulated him on his play, he played Eve perfectly...
Did I mention anybody specific?

Despite your little anecdote the fact remains that a large proportion of hisec residents are apathetic and/or lazy.

Congrats on a successful op btw.


No you did not mention any one specific, I just thought you might appreciate my game play yesterday and thanks for the congrats, I was impressed with the freighter pilot, not many are like that which I agree with.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Solecist Project
#11 - 2016-08-21 14:21:21 UTC
If everyone was ganking there, we'd all be there.
Then everyone would be ganking and no one would be the ganked.
So no one would be ganking, because everyone would be ganking.


That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2016-08-21 14:38:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Telegram Sam
Dracvlad wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
The main reason that gankers have an advantage is that people are apathetic and/or lazy.


Yesterday I went out with some anti-gankers for some fun, first couple of hours was stopping a Vexor ganker from plying his trade, nothing was ganked while I was sitting there in a Phobus with his loot scooper pre-locked.

After that I heard of an event in Mad, someone had got a warp in with a ganker with 1 ISK KR, so I went to kill him, but he went for a gank and someone took it...

Then I went and sat in a station leaving my alt in Niarja, to find a blackbird pointing a Fenrrir, I jumped into a repping ship then headed there getting my alt into a rep ship too, then I called for a response. We got enough logi in system and on the freighter in time so that when the gank fleet came in the numbers were against them, then the person who was being bumped brought in DST's and a ton of logi. The gankers gave up having lost 4 Stealth Bombers warping around the system. The freighter pilot concerned made a healthy donation to the AG players who first reacted.

Neither he or the AG players were apathetic or lazy, we congratulated him on his play, he played Eve perfectly...
Did I mention anybody specific?

Despite your little anecdote the fact remains that a large proportion of hisec residents are apathetic and/or lazy.

Congrats on a successful op btw.


No you did not mention any one specific, I just thought you might appreciate my game play yesterday and thanks for the congrats, I was impressed with the freighter pilot, not many are like that which I agree with.

True, some freighter pilots are hard to assist, because they won't cooperate with the assist. It might be that they're panicked, or maybe they don't quite understand what's going on. Communicating with them can be hard too, because some won't accept chat requests. Which is understandable-- everybody is supposed to be paranoid in EVE.

Anyway, nice write up. Win or lose, AG vs. Ganker sports matches can be really fun for everybody.
Solecist Project
#13 - 2016-08-21 14:45:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
Solecist Project wrote:
If everyone was ganking there, we'd all be there.
Then everyone would be ganking and no one would be the ganked.
So no one would be ganking, because everyone would be ganking.


When there is no one to gank, while everyone is ganking, then everyone is getting ganked.
Everyone is getting ganked, because everyone is ganking.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Dark Lord Trump
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#14 - 2016-08-21 14:53:38 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
If everyone was ganking there, we'd all be there.
Then everyone would be ganking and no one would be the ganked.
So no one would be ganking, because everyone would be ganking.



If everyone's a ganker, no one is.

I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
Soel Reit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2016-08-21 15:44:55 UTC
what is a ganker?Shocked
i see only L33t pvpers. Pls no racism in highsec! Pirate
Cien Banchiere
Extrinsic Arcadia Distribution
#16 - 2016-08-21 16:45:18 UTC
Do you drive through shifty, dangerous parts of your city when you know there is probably an alternate route? Just use your map. Problem fixed.
Serene Repose
#17 - 2016-08-21 17:10:02 UTC
LOL!! Best way to handle a chokepoint is to dissipate it, not consecrate it!

"CCP! There's an obvious chokepoint!! Let's enshrine it!!"
(Heh...heh...heh...that way we can make all the freighters pay us protection money....why have the rest of the map?)

All through the day I Me Mine I Me Mine I Me Mine
All through the night I Me Mine I Me Mine I Me Mine

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Solecist Project
#18 - 2016-08-21 17:25:34 UTC
Dark Lord Trump wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
If everyone was ganking there, we'd all be there.
Then everyone would be ganking and no one would be the ganked.
So no one would be ganking, because everyone would be ganking.



If everyone's a ganker, no one is.

When everyone's a ganker, everyone's ganking gankers.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
TackyTachy1
Doomheim
#19 - 2016-08-21 17:41:17 UTC
Speaking of the Map I've been watching Uedama and the kills per last hour over there seem to always be off the scale. Thinking of taking my brand new, out of the box Noctis over there and do some salvaging but I've been tied up with other stuff so no go yet.

Ganking? I've been flying Skiffs with full Hammerhead loadouts and so far it's been me three gankers naught, but CCP gonna play with the barges so that could change.

Forum Rep for a bunch of characters, couple corps and one seriously Lost In Space multiboxer.
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#20 - 2016-08-21 18:24:59 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
LOL!! Best way to handle a chokepoint is to dissipate it, not consecrate it!

"CCP! There's an obvious chokepoint!! Let's enshrine it!!"
(Heh...heh...heh...that way we can make all the freighters pay us protection money....why have the rest of the map?)

All through the day I Me Mine I Me Mine I Me Mine
All through the night I Me Mine I Me Mine I Me Mine

A Like for those ridiculous links!
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