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The new Executioner hull models

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Helene Fidard
CTRL-Q
#1 - 2016-08-17 13:27:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Helene Fidard
Not really a fan, but I'll try to be constructive. I've settled on two aspects of the Singularity model which make it look ungainly compared to the Tranquility one, and which could probably (?) still be changed:

a) The bridge between the two engines is too far to the rear, making the ship back-heavy and oddly elongated. This also part of why the ship looks like a clone of the Crucifier.

b) The the two engines are essentially parallel, making the gap between them very large at the front and giving the model a frail, rectangular appearance from above. The old model is roughly triangular from above and from the side, a streamlined shape much more appropriate for moving through the thick goo of space.

For an idea of what I would rather see, refer to my extremely lazy shop
(unedited, for reference)

I realize ships get remodeled for technical reasons as well as aesthetic ones, so this isn't a "keep the old one" post, but I hope the new model can be adapted more closely to the old one.

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Vesan Terakol
Trollgrin Sadface
Dark Taboo
#2 - 2016-08-17 18:32:47 UTC
But... why not the slicer too?
Daemun Khanid
Corbeau de sang
#3 - 2016-08-17 18:41:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Daemun Khanid
I wont be constructive other than to say leave the exec alone and fix some ships that are actually in dire need.
-1
(Just to be clear, the old exec looks much better imo.)

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#4 - 2016-08-17 20:49:28 UTC
i like it.
what im scratching my head over why we got this in a world where the Imicus Griffin Bantam Probe
and Burst are allowed outside
Helene Fidard
CTRL-Q
#5 - 2016-08-17 21:17:25 UTC
Daemun Khanid wrote:
(Just to be clear, the old exec looks much better imo.)

I agree, but at this point there is a 0% chance of it being kept

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Tragot Gomndor
Three Sword Inc
#6 - 2016-08-18 09:56:50 UTC
OMFG what are you doing to the executioner and more important TO THE MALEDICTION??? that looks stupid, so stupid, way too big and bulky for an interceptor, actually looks like the crucifier and not a fast frigate...

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Lirya Sertan
Lazer Unicorns
#7 - 2016-08-20 23:42:22 UTC
I really got into Eve in 2014 and quickly came to like fast ships. To this day the Executioner, Malediction and Crusader remain as some of my favorite ships, they are fast and their current design very much reflect on that, and I must say that I am happy that you (CCP) wish to update their models. However it also comes as a surprise and a disappointment.

The Executioner, Crusader and Malediction have in its current state on Tranquility a much more slick design which fit for fast ships a lot more than this new bulky design. You can fit 4 turrets on the Crusader which on the new model, three go on the sides then one on top to the side and on the bottom on the other side. To me, this feels kind of inconsistent. If there's only going to be one turret on top and one on the bottom I would expect them to be in the middle, or if you remove a set of the turrets on the sides and put them on top and bottom as well on the opposite side of the current turrets instead. The OP covered the other details pretty well. I don't think a complete redesign of the new model is necessary, only a few changes to make it look more streamlined. Otherwise I like that it is highly detailed, its rotating bits and its warp animation.

I got surprised because I've seen people for some time now ask for redesigns of ships like the Osprey / Basilisk and the Bantam / Kirin while I've seen no one ask for redesigns of the Executioner, Crusader or Malediction.

There are numerous threads about this on various forums already with much more criticism than what's been covered in this thread so far. The two I've mostly been following are on reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/4y15mo/test_server_new_executionercrusadermalediction/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/4yaeod/sisi_new_executionercrusadermalediction_models/

I really hope you would reconsider your design decision about these ships.
Amarisen Gream
The.Kin.of.Jupiter
#8 - 2016-08-21 01:36:09 UTC
I just want to say. the new slicer is ducking awesome.

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Lugh Crow-Slave
#9 - 2016-08-21 03:00:05 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
i like it.
what im scratching my head over why we got this in a world where the Imicus Griffin Bantam Probe
and Burst are allowed outside



q.q my griffin looks like a fat mosquito now
Nikea Tiber
Backwater Enterprises RD
#10 - 2016-08-21 21:09:17 UTC
I'm not a fan of the new executuoner/'sader/'diction models. At all. These hulls have been capsuleer favorites in terms of aesthetics since i started playing 12 years ago. I've never heard any complaints about the executor hulls needing a change, why not ships people have actually been complaining about, like the osprey, celestis, imicus... etc.

I never thought a visual hull change could bum me out this much, yet here we are.

The slicer looks more like an inteceptor than these new pod racers.

How many capsuleers think the best looking hull in the New Eden cluster just got hit with an ugly stick?

my other nano is a polycarb

ColdCutz
Frigonometry
#11 - 2016-09-16 20:07:45 UTC  |  Edited by: ColdCutz
And of course the Interceptors lose their unique fin placement at the rear of the engine pylons. CCP take this Executioner model and its variants back to the drawing board please. I'd be ecstatic if you just made it nearly identical to the old design, like the Maulus redesign - that one was superb IMO.
ColdCutz
Frigonometry
#12 - 2016-11-05 12:58:53 UTC
You have a picture of the old Crusader in your 'Recruiting is Rewarding' banner.
https://secure.eveonline.com/
It's far too sleek and gorgeous compared to the new model... CCP please consider looking at the design again. I know you've listened to our feedback in the past.