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PVP Areanas in NULL/LOW sec

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Ramadawn
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-01-15 20:52:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramadawn
PVP Arenas in null/low sec

The idea is to create a number of combat arenas for every system in Null sec and low sec. (similar to Faction warfare). Control of these arenas gives the owner a certain percent of the tax income for the system and/or a set amount of isk every hour.

Players gain control of these arenas by being with 5 km of the arena beacon for s set amount of time, say 10 mins. Players can choose, through their UI settings, to either capture a beacon for themselves (in which case they get the isk themselves) or for their fleet (in which case the isk is divided up amongst fleet members) or for their corp (in which case the isk goes to their corp.

In order to create arena style combat, player’s warp into the room at a random point at a range of 100 km from the beacon, and cannot warp out of the room within 100 km of the Beacon.

Each system would some or all of the following rooms:

Note: All of the below rooms would have Solo PVP room versions. Solo PVP rooms will not allow more than one member of a particular fleet, corp or alliance inside a room at once. (yes, people can still get around this, but it will cut down on the numbers of enemies that can jump into a room as players generally roam with their own corp/Alliance mates)

- Tech 1 non faction Frigate Room

- Frigate room (allows all frigates types)

- Tech 1 Non-Faction Cruiser room

- Tech 1 and Tech 2 Cruiser Room

- All cruiser room

- Tech 1 Frigates and cruisers Room

- All Cruisers and frigates room

- Tech 1 BC’s Room

- Tech 1, BC’s , Cruisers and Frigates Room

- All Ships BC’s or smaller sized room

- Tech 1 BS Room

- All BS’s Room

- All ships BS or smaller room

With such a system in place (and sufficient isk available to make it worthwhile). Low Sec and ,especially Null sec, would be crawling with all manner of PVP ships engaging in active combat, Kill rates would go through the roof and ,more importantly, fun and engaging PVP would become a lot easier to come by.
Best of all, with all the different rooms types out there, PVP would become less dominated by specific ships and new and old players would have a much easier time finding PVP that best suits their abilities and interests.
Ramadawn
Perkone
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-01-15 21:03:08 UTC
If you like this idea please post your support
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-01-15 21:03:27 UTC
No.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Goose99
#4 - 2012-01-15 21:12:02 UTC
Take out isk faucet, then maybe.Cool
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#5 - 2012-01-15 21:33:30 UTC
No to "instancing" in any form.
Ramadawn
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-01-15 21:39:34 UTC
Arenas without reward was tried in FW. These sites generally create little in the way of actual PvP.

In short, if you want to attract people you need a carrot.
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#7 - 2012-01-15 23:43:14 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
No.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]

Aglais
Ice-Storm
#8 - 2012-01-15 23:55:45 UTC
Nullsec and lowsec arguably already are PvP arenas.
Dbars Grinding
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#9 - 2012-01-16 12:32:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Dbars Grinding
The carrot should be rewarded in modules , ammo and ships that you would win imo. Some of these being unique. Also i didnt read you topic because LOL READING!!

I have more space likes than you. 

Ramadawn
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-01-16 16:36:18 UTC
* shakes head

Perhaps an INTELLEGENT statement might be posted on this thread?

One that I dunno, contains an actual argument and shows that the person has read the above posts.

Nestara Aldent
Citimatics
#11 - 2012-01-16 17:00:17 UTC
Ramadawn wrote:
* shakes head

Perhaps an INTELLEGENT statement might be posted on this thread?

One that I dunno, contains an actual argument and shows that the person has read the above posts.



What people are telling is that instanced arenas/battlegrounds destroy world pvp.
Tamiya Sarossa
Resistance is Character Forming
#12 - 2012-01-16 17:09:19 UTC
More stationary plexes a la FW but outside FW areas. FW plexes are great except for the tendency of FWers to be in fleets. Rewards not needed. All the 2/10's (stationary plexes, not FW related) I frequent are PvP hotspots and none of the participants are actually running the plexes. 2/10's have provided some of my best PvP experiences - easy to split up opposition and ensure you get fights without the blob being dropped.

Though I think this works best on the frig level, if there were similar gated plexes scattered around lowsec with different ship restrictions I would be in heaven. Give them very minimal loot if any - PvPers will come.
Taint
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-01-16 18:20:43 UTC
No !
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#14 - 2012-01-16 19:22:31 UTC
Ramadawn wrote:
* shakes head

Perhaps an INTELLEGENT statement might be posted on this thread?

One that I dunno, contains an actual argument and shows that the person has read the above posts.


This proposal has been made many times, if you want an "intelligent" discussion on it, search for one of those threads and read the 20+ pages where we described why it's a bad idea last time.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]

Ramadawn
Perkone
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-01-16 19:49:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramadawn
So, so far, the response to this thread have consisted of some intelligent critiques and one guy with his three alts. ;)

Seriously "no". No to what? There are a number of ideas put up for consideration. What particular point do you object too?

Or is it the fact that this idea threatens you precious care-bear null sec and you don't want anything to threaten your "secure earnings"?

It never fails to amaze me how human beings can look at a list of ideas. Pick one thing they find objectionable. And reject the whole thing out of hand based on one thing. Is it any wonder our civilization is quickly racing towards the abyss of environment apocalypse?

But I digress...

Adding isk making arenas would add greatly to the PVP atmosphere of null sec.

For one thing it would bring more people into PVP and allow them to PVP more often.

It would add variety and vitality to the limited varieties of PVP that currently exits.

It would bring more types of ships into active PVP use and reduce the focus of players on a limited selection of ships and ship fittings.

Honestly how many drake/cane BC fights can you have before you want to do something different?

Wouldn’t it be nice to have a easily accessible rifter fight? Or have a place where you can justify bring a caracal as opposed to a drake? (other than kicks that is)

Add to the fact, that if you tied the income of these sites to the system’s taxes you would create a much greater need for sub capital ships in Null sec.

Isn’t that one of CCP’s great goals for null sec?

Finally, and most importantly, adding said arenas, especially the frigate and cruiser arenas, would make PVP FAR more accessible to new players. And isn’t this the SUPREME goal for any MMO that wishes to continue to be vibrant, relevant and growing?
Ramadawn
Perkone
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-01-16 19:50:30 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Ramadawn wrote:
* shakes head

Perhaps an INTELLEGENT statement might be posted on this thread?

One that I dunno, contains an actual argument and shows that the person has read the above posts.


This proposal has been made many times, if you want an "intelligent" discussion on it, search for one of those threads and read the 20+ pages where we described why it's a bad idea last time.



Well clearly the idea needs to keep being hammered at untill Null sec stops being a giant care bear land!!!
Ramadawn
Perkone
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-01-16 20:07:07 UTC
If you REALLY want to make it interesting. Charge every POS in null sec a small hourly fee for operating. This fee is pooled and payed out to the varous Arena controllers...

profit motive

Subcapital use and sov
Xorv
Questionable Acquisitions
#18 - 2012-01-16 20:14:31 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
No to "instancing" in any form.


This. The idea just isn't Sandbox and does not belong in EVE. I'd be all for more opportunities for small gangs and soloers to fight over some Isk pinata, but not instanced.

Ultimately what EVE needs is more motivation not to blob, more means to avoid the blob, and more motivation to fight in the first place. Granted implementing that is not easy, but instanced arenas is not the answer.
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#19 - 2012-01-16 20:15:18 UTC
Ramadawn wrote:
If you REALLY want to make it interesting. Charge every POS in null sec a small hourly fee for operating. This fee is pooled and payed out to the varous Arena controllers...

profit motive

Subcapital use and sov

All this does is make us use alts, alt corps and alt alliances to drop fleet and gank people in "solo" rooms. Also, if these rooms are used to "control" a system, what happens if a frigate takes control of a room while a cruiser in is a different room? Can the cruiser take control back, or is it now powerless because the frigate got there first and it can't fight it due to the gate not letting it pass?

This is just a badly thought out iteration of a suggestion that has been put forth by every single WoW player ever to switch to Eve.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]

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Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#20 - 2012-01-16 20:20:59 UTC
Stop being lazy and make it happen.
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