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Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#61 - 2016-07-17 19:22:29 UTC
William Legrand-Marx wrote:
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
If you were simply trying to gather information, why didn't you just look at the contract history of the countless other scammers in Jita?

But what kind of information could you get that would benefit you in anything other than another scam? If someone sold a PLEX to you for 1m ISK that doesn't mean they're sheeple or following market trends, only that they're a bit simple and can't count zeroes, perhaps a little greedy too.

As for undercover police, I'm sure they're unofficially afforded some leniency in order to do their job and stay safe, but if they're stealing for their own benefit when a little detective work would provide similar results, then that's another matter entirely.


What do you think? Maybe people are so hungry for PLEX they do not see price tag, greed aside. Exactly the people that are so unattentive are the people who having the choice will not think twice or analyze it, thus falling into line. Consumers exactly do so, in other way nobody would buy iphones every year with no real increase in technology, because they would be rational consumers and think better instead of buying ipad2 even though they just ended up getting ipad a year prior, right? Wrong, they do and they will keep doing it, which I don't mind at all as long as I benefit from such people and their mindlessnes. Those who possess something they cannot withhold should give it to those who can hold and multiply it. You don't give a gun to a child to play with, don't you? I will repeat that if you see scams as only scams you saw nothing.


Thank you for not answering my post at all.
William Legrand-Marx
Nemesis Ad Astra
#62 - 2016-07-18 16:35:06 UTC
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
William Legrand-Marx wrote:
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
If you were simply trying to gather information, why didn't you just look at the contract history of the countless other scammers in Jita?

But what kind of information could you get that would benefit you in anything other than another scam? If someone sold a PLEX to you for 1m ISK that doesn't mean they're sheeple or following market trends, only that they're a bit simple and can't count zeroes, perhaps a little greedy too.

As for undercover police, I'm sure they're unofficially afforded some leniency in order to do their job and stay safe, but if they're stealing for their own benefit when a little detective work would provide similar results, then that's another matter entirely.


What do you think? Maybe people are so hungry for PLEX they do not see price tag, greed aside. Exactly the people that are so unattentive are the people who having the choice will not think twice or analyze it, thus falling into line. Consumers exactly do so, in other way nobody would buy iphones every year with no real increase in technology, because they would be rational consumers and think better instead of buying ipad2 even though they just ended up getting ipad a year prior, right? Wrong, they do and they will keep doing it, which I don't mind at all as long as I benefit from such people and their mindlessnes. Those who possess something they cannot withhold should give it to those who can hold and multiply it. You don't give a gun to a child to play with, don't you? I will repeat that if you see scams as only scams you saw nothing.


Thank you for not answering my post at all.


If this is not understandable, then I have no need to explain something whatsoever. You must be thinking .01 isk games are for trading and not for market evaluation. If so then my scam should stay scam for you, in your understanding.

There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...

William Legrand-Marx
Nemesis Ad Astra
#63 - 2016-07-18 17:33:13 UTC  |  Edited by: William Legrand-Marx
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
William Legrand-Marx wrote:
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
If you were simply trying to gather information, why didn't you just look at the contract history of the countless other scammers in Jita?

But what kind of information could you get that would benefit you in anything other than another scam? If someone sold a PLEX to you for 1m ISK that doesn't mean they're sheeple or following market trends, only that they're a bit simple and can't count zeroes, perhaps a little greedy too.

As for undercover police, I'm sure they're unofficially afforded some leniency in order to do their job and stay safe, but if they're stealing for their own benefit when a little detective work would provide similar results, then that's another matter entirely.


What do you think? Maybe people are so hungry for PLEX they do not see price tag, greed aside. Exactly the people that are so unattentive are the people who having the choice will not think twice or analyze it, thus falling into line. Consumers exactly do so, in other way nobody would buy iphones every year with no real increase in technology, because they would be rational consumers and think better instead of buying ipad2 even though they just ended up getting ipad a year prior, right? Wrong, they do and they will keep doing it, which I don't mind at all as long as I benefit from such people and their mindlessnes. Those who possess something they cannot withhold should give it to those who can hold and multiply it. You don't give a gun to a child to play with, don't you? I will repeat that if you see scams as only scams you saw nothing.


Thank you for not answering my post at all.


Also, when Eyjólfur Guðmundsson was making this baby awesome, my

[ 2016.07.10 11:34:58 ] William Legrand-Marx > i know, i got no other choice for now becausemy only credential is my degree and experience in hedge fund
[ 2016.07.10 11:35:16 ] Elizabeth Norn > those are both irrelevant here, and I wouldn't ask you to prove them

is irreleveant here. Are you a cab driver in real life? Even cab drivers know more about economy then you do. Claiming that is purely 'tarded prove me wrong after all the bear ramps and rampings that happened. You still claim something after that?

I mean just read this interview with him - http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/eve-online-meet-man-controlling-18-million-space-economy-1447437

"I honestly believe that there are a lot of things happening in Eve Online that are a good direction for real life economists to look at, study and use." - Eyjó G.

EDIT: you know what? You wanted to put me down but this time I am tired of this. TIme for you and people like you to go away.

There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...

Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#64 - 2016-07-18 17:52:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Elizabeth Norn
You misunderstood me, this is a video game and, in my opinion, knowledge of the game trumps IRL economic knowledge. You are probably right that cab drivers know more about the IRL economy than I do, but I bet I can make a bunch more spacemoney than them.

I wasn't trying to put you down, just stating that IRL knowledge doesn't always translate to EVE. You also keep making it very clear in your posts here that you don't have much knowledge about EVE in general.
William Legrand-Marx
Nemesis Ad Astra
#65 - 2016-07-18 17:54:30 UTC
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
You misunderstood me, this is a video game and knowledge of the game trumps IRL economic knowledge, in my opinion. You are probably right that cab drivers know more about the IRL economy than I do, but I bet I can make a bunch more spacemoney than them.

I wasn't trying to put you down, just stating that IRL knowledge doesn't always translate to EVE. You also keep making it very clear in your posts here that you don't have much knowledge about EVE in general.


Just keep bumping my thread and avoid that interview with the econ guy and forget about all the economic schemes that happened in the pat, forget them because they never happened. Keep it in your own little sandbox of yourself.

There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...

Areen Sassel
Dirac Angestun Gesept
#66 - 2016-07-18 18:21:33 UTC
William Legrand-Marx wrote:
If, obviously, people fall for simple scams they will surely be just a sheeple following the market trend which is needed for successful completition of the operation.


Can one be "a sheeple"? Surely "sheeple" is inherently plural. It would have to be "an individualamb", or "one of ewe", or something along those lines.
William Legrand-Marx
Nemesis Ad Astra
#67 - 2016-07-18 18:23:52 UTC
Areen Sassel wrote:
William Legrand-Marx wrote:
If, obviously, people fall for simple scams they will surely be just a sheeple following the market trend which is needed for successful completition of the operation.


Can one be "a sheeple"? Surely "sheeple" is inherently plural. It would have to be "an individualamb", or "one of ewe", or something along those lines.


You caught me in the heat of argument, I withdraw my shameful rhetoric... THEEE SHEEPLE!

Oh, I mean economic ghm ghm agents ghm.... Lol

There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...

Ibrahim Tash-Murkon
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#68 - 2016-07-19 09:24:15 UTC
William you are the gift that keeps on giving. Blink

"I give you the destiny of Faith, and you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens: Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given." - Book of Reclaiming 22:13

William Legrand-Marx
Nemesis Ad Astra
#69 - 2016-07-19 10:23:54 UTC
Ibrahim Tash-Murkon wrote:
William you are the gift that keeps on giving. Blink


I will try my best. I hope I will not fall below the "reasoning bar", however I will upkeep the high irony tower to ensure amusement for myself and for others in the time of struggle. Lol

There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...

Kaprer Suhr
New Eden Mining Union Incorporated
#70 - 2016-07-28 08:40:58 UTC
Alrighty I'm noob, I bite.

Let's have your link'd In and some photo verification to make sure that you still work for that hedge fund, and weren't sacked for your enormous ego-complex that undoubtedly, was hazardous to your "co-workers"

I pledge 10Bil, the isk stays in my wallet, and you reveal your master pyramid plan? Count me in.

I can't wait to hear your mis-directing ego-centric response that will only serve to rile up the "idiots" you, like a diseased person, proclaim so enthusiastically, to be eons above.

Parker Rush
Kaprer Suhr
New Eden Mining Union Incorporated
#71 - 2016-07-28 08:51:55 UTC
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
William Legrand-Marx wrote:
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
If you were simply trying to gather information, why didn't you just look at the contract history of the countless other scammers in Jita?

But what kind of information could you get that would benefit you in anything other than another scam? If someone sold a PLEX to you for 1m ISK that doesn't mean they're sheeple or following market trends, only that they're a bit simple and can't count zeroes, perhaps a little greedy too.

As for undercover police, I'm sure they're unofficially afforded some leniency in order to do their job and stay safe, but if they're stealing for their own benefit when a little detective work would provide similar results, then that's another matter entirely.


What do you think? Maybe people are so hungry for PLEX they do not see price tag, greed aside. Exactly the people that are so unattentive are the people who having the choice will not think twice or analyze it, thus falling into line. Consumers exactly do so, in other way nobody would buy iphones every year with no real increase in technology, because they would be rational consumers and think better instead of buying ipad2 even though they just ended up getting ipad a year prior, right? Wrong, they do and they will keep doing it, which I don't mind at all as long as I benefit from such people and their mindlessnes. Those who possess something they cannot withhold should give it to those who can hold and multiply it. You don't give a gun to a child to play with, don't you? I will repeat that if you see scams as only scams you saw nothing.


Thank you for not answering my post at all.


He answered mine very well. And I hate to go full doctor at our first meeting, but you might want to read this. For your health. Complex of Superiority
Complex stems from the inner perception of oneself being better than the others. The complex can be transmitted by heritage, or, in rare cases, gained throughout the life. In the first case the complex is demonstrated in all life`s spheres disregarding any cocomplexnditions, whereas in the latter one it is rather concentrated on the area, where it rose from (work, social relations etc.).
Its features are namely:
• Protracted belief of one`s eminence above the rest of the world;
• Consideration of others as those who do not deserve their company or even ‘********’;
• Personal relations building in specific schemas, wherein in the centre there is always gain;
• Incapacity to develop friendship relations;
• Aim to control any life`s situation at any cost.
Complex does not require psychological intervention at the early stage, however, it might be needed so at the later stages, when the complex might gain the complete control of the personality.
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
SL33PERS
#72 - 2016-07-28 09:42:54 UTC
So, how do you distinguish between that, sociopathy and Asperger's, doc?
William Legrand-Marx
Nemesis Ad Astra
#73 - 2016-07-28 19:14:03 UTC  |  Edited by: William Legrand-Marx
Kaprer Suhr wrote:
Alrighty I'm noob, I bite.

Let's have your link'd In and some photo verification to make sure that you still work for that hedge fund, and weren't sacked for your enormous ego-complex that undoubtedly, was hazardous to your "co-workers"

I pledge 10Bil, the isk stays in my wallet, and you reveal your master pyramid plan? Count me in.

I can't wait to hear your mis-directing ego-centric response that will only serve to rile up the "idiots" you, like a diseased person, proclaim so enthusiastically, to be eons above.

Parker Rush


If you are in it, then, upon reaching the goal everything will be discussed in a private meeting. After that, it is either that we proceed or stop. I would not make members go for it uncosciously without them realising what the schematics are. About my persona idnetity, I would not do such a thing given the nature of any petty troll to disseminate my identity to everyone. There are many ways to do confirmation whether I know something or not. Also, about work relation, what I do at work is under NDA so as far as you can get is to realise whether I know something or not, which, if you being not in the field, might be not convincing enough. I will count you in, also write me ingame so that I add you to the rest of the team. About pyramid plans, I am afraid, if your insights are limited to undergraduate first year economics intro course, you might have trouble understanding, but I hope I will be clear enough so that you understand, unless again, this is not just a funny trolling you try to enforce.

There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...

William Legrand-Marx
Nemesis Ad Astra
#74 - 2016-07-28 19:16:39 UTC  |  Edited by: William Legrand-Marx
Ria Nieyli wrote:
So, how do you distinguish between that, sociopathy and Asperger's, doc?


Asperger counts in for repetitive interests and communications, with lack of social adptability and non-verbal communication. Socipathy is basically psychopathy which is a lack of empathic response to the triggers. In other words, GTA single player mode. signed: not a doctor...

There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...

Robby Rova
Doomheim
#75 - 2016-07-28 19:42:21 UTC
William Legrand-Marx wrote:
Ria Nieyli wrote:
So, how do you distinguish between that, sociopathy and Asperger's, doc?


Asperger counts in for repetitive interests and communications, with lack of social adptability and non-verbal communication. Socipathy is basically psychopathy which is a lack of empathic response to the triggers. In other words, GTA single player mode. signed: not a doctor...


still can't tell...
William Legrand-Marx
Nemesis Ad Astra
#76 - 2016-07-28 19:51:24 UTC
Robby Rova wrote:
William Legrand-Marx wrote:
Ria Nieyli wrote:
So, how do you distinguish between that, sociopathy and Asperger's, doc?


Asperger counts in for repetitive interests and communications, with lack of social adptability and non-verbal communication. Socipathy is basically psychopathy which is a lack of empathic response to the triggers. In other words, GTA single player mode. signed: not a doctor...


still can't tell...


Must be Trollus Simplex Syndrome...

There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...

William Legrand-Marx
Nemesis Ad Astra
#77 - 2016-08-04 17:20:42 UTC
Selfless, sacrificing self-bump. Must be my ego being unable to cope with reality.

There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...

William Legrand-Marx
Nemesis Ad Astra
#78 - 2016-08-04 19:32:08 UTC  |  Edited by: William Legrand-Marx
With new partner, currently at 410 Billion ISK +

If someone interested, you are welcome

+20 Billion on top of that, now 430+

There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...

Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#79 - 2016-08-10 21:18:52 UTC
The Fukuzawa wrote:
Clowns of the MD forum (you know who you are), until you have solid evidence of scamming or venture failure, you really should keep your thoughts to yourselves, unless they are constructive.

I know it's hard, but just try.



BTW, Lizzypoo, I'm still waiting on you to dig up some evidence... Good luck squeezing water from a rock you clown.



I bet you're feeling pretty stupid now, given the content of the other thread.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

William Legrand-Marx
Nemesis Ad Astra
#80 - 2016-08-10 21:49:03 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
The Fukuzawa wrote:
Clowns of the MD forum (you know who you are), until you have solid evidence of scamming or venture failure, you really should keep your thoughts to yourselves, unless they are constructive.

I know it's hard, but just try.



BTW, Lizzypoo, I'm still waiting on you to dig up some evidence... Good luck squeezing water from a rock you clown.



I bet you're feeling pretty stupid now, given the content of the other thread.


Tell me. What is your deal? All I saw was paying for war against a bunch of losers on the trade stations because muh feels got hurt and advising people with genuine concerns a vaccine solution for a dead man. That cannot come from a person of high class as you are, but why it does? The public shall endevour for more...

There is nothing worthy in this world even if others think it is worth something...