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August release - Contracts in Citadels

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Sootsia
HIgh Sec Care Bears
Brothers of Tangra
#41 - 2016-07-30 23:59:46 UTC
CCP Habakuk wrote:
Hi,


  • Increased contract limitations: Max contract size to 1,200,000m3, max item stacks from 200 to 500, max ISK value to 10 trillion

  • If something works in stations (on TQ), then it should also work in Citadels (on Sisi). Feel free to send bug reports in those cases (F12 - Report Bug).



    Not sure If I am understanding this correctly, whereas one can contract capitals in a station, I think the numbers given by CCP Habakuk prevents one from doing so in a citadel, let alone what one would presume to be able to do in a Keepstar, contracting of Titans and Supers.

    Asika Koraka
    Dragon Factory
    #42 - 2016-07-31 09:01:47 UTC
    any eta for the industrial array , rorqual rebalance release?
    CCP Habakuk
    C C P
    C C P Alliance
    #43 - 2016-07-31 16:27:31 UTC
    Sootsia wrote:
    CCP Habakuk wrote:
    Hi,


  • Increased contract limitations: Max contract size to 1,200,000m3, max item stacks from 200 to 500, max ISK value to 10 trillion

  • If something works in stations (on TQ), then it should also work in Citadels (on Sisi). Feel free to send bug reports in those cases (F12 - Report Bug).



    Not sure If I am understanding this correctly, whereas one can contract capitals in a station, I think the numbers given by CCP Habakuk prevents one from doing so in a citadel, let alone what one would presume to be able to do in a Keepstar, contracting of Titans and Supers.



    Oh, the max contract size is only for courier contracts - other contracts have no limited volume (as far as I know). I clarified this now also in the original post.

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    Bienator II
    madmen of the skies
    #44 - 2016-07-31 17:34:44 UTC
    CCP Habakuk wrote:
    Bienator II wrote:
    would increasing the max stack limit for the station hangar cause problems too? I don't know how its calculated but i am in one station at around 900 stacks and i can't repackage stuff anymore. Happens almost every time i move.


    The limit for item stacks in a station hangar is at 1000 (but including the ship hangar) and it is there for performance reasons. There are still a few methods for going a bit above this limit (for example through contracts), but having too many items in one location slows down both the server and the client.


    thanks for the explanation. I do in fact have a lot of ships in that station, that explains why the item limit is lower than 1k since it all adds up.

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    Lynnae Suriyawong
    Circle of Steel Inc.
    #45 - 2016-07-31 21:49:01 UTC
    Why is the limit being increased to 1,200,000, when a Charon with ORE Expanded Cargoholds and level V skill can carry 1,247,763?

    Sentient Blade
    Crisis Atmosphere
    Coalition of the Unfortunate
    #46 - 2016-08-01 11:39:33 UTC
    Sorry if I've missed it, but are we getting a maximum contract length increase in these changes? Even if it's only for contracts to corp / alliance, a significant increase in maximum length would be appreciated.
    Smurf Joseph
    KarmaFleet
    Goonswarm Federation
    #47 - 2016-08-01 14:49:19 UTC
    Could you add a little flexibility to 'days to complete' opntion? I live in a wormhole and It'd be so helpful to get goods at at the current static connection before it dissapears without mailing haulers or have pacts with hauler corporations.
    King Creator
    Out of Focus
    Odin's Call
    #48 - 2016-08-01 17:15:20 UTC
    CCP Habakuk wrote:
    "able to set destination to a citadel from saved bookmarks" - I'll investigate after the weekend

    Assets API: I'll ask around after the weekend, but this is not really for my team and I am not sure what is possible there.

    Grookshank wrote:
    Can we get some info on contract taxes and broker fees? They seem to be the same on SiSi right now.

    Nothing changed regarding taxes and broker fees (everything goes to NPCs).


    Any progress on the API thing?
    CCP Habakuk
    C C P
    C C P Alliance
    #49 - 2016-08-02 19:26:53 UTC
    King Creator wrote:
    Any progress on the API thing?

    I discussed it with the relevant team and they will look further into it. It seems like it should be possible, but we cannot promise anything yet - and there is for sure no eta for it.

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    Rivr Luzade
    Coreli Corporation
    Pandemic Legion
    #50 - 2016-08-03 09:38:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Rivr Luzade
    Lynnae Suriyawong wrote:
    Why is the limit being increased to 1,200,000, when a Charon with ORE Expanded Cargoholds and level V skill can carry 1,247,763?

    Because this kind of irregular numbers are a very cumbersome and outright dumb value as an upper limit. Not to mention that 99.5% of the haulers do not use ORE ECH but normal T2, which sets the cargo volume to 1.204M m³. An edge case like ORE ECH cannot be the norm.

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    Blacksmoke16
    Resilience.
    #51 - 2016-08-03 17:48:14 UTC
    Another thought i had.

    As of now when doing courier contracts and moving the plastic wrap via a freighter alt, in order to complete the courier contract i have to contract the plastic wrap to the acceptor of the contract. Would it be doable to have it so when whomever has the plastic wrap clicks deliver courier package that the contract will be completed and the reward etc will be sent to acceptor of the contract?
    Altrue
    Exploration Frontier inc
    Tactical-Retreat
    #52 - 2016-08-04 15:45:05 UTC
    As per the patch note, a courier contract with a Citadel as a destination is canceled if the Citadel gets blown up.

    Can I have confirmation that:

    1- The courier contract is NOT canceled if the Citadel is only the origin point and already accepted.

    2- "Canceled" is NOT "failed", which means that the hauler keeps the item but gets his collateral back (as opposed to failed which doesn't give the collateral back)

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    Vraygan
    #53 - 2016-08-08 17:04:07 UTC
    CCP Habakuk wrote:
    Hi,

    Planned, but not available yet

    • Ability to finish a contract from outside a citadel without docking access: Will very likely be added in a follow-up patch

    Not sure if this is possible, but could you please also make it so that you can be outside the station and drop items into your hangar/CorpHangar from outside without docking? That way you don't have to wait to go through the whole loading screen for docking when doing hauling runs.
    Messenger Of Truth
    Butlerian Crusade
    #54 - 2016-08-15 14:02:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Messenger Of Truth
    CCP Habakuk wrote:

  • All citadels were renamed to include the system name


  • This is not correct: citadel ID 1021474866146 on tranquility has name "Hannover - out of order" but there is no system called Hannover in the game.

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    Darkblad
    #55 - 2016-08-15 15:02:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Darkblad
    Correct, hat Hannover citadel has (Auswide) in its name but that's the corporation's name.
    Messenger Of Truth
    Butlerian Crusade
    #56 - 2016-08-15 21:58:02 UTC
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