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Wormhole Town Hall Aug 13th 19:00

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NoobMan
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2016-07-29 20:45:21 UTC  |  Edited by: NoobMan
Teamspeak Info: http://www.teamspeak.com/invite/ts.hardknocksinc.net/?password=CSM

If that doesn't work TS Server: ts.hardknocksinc.net Password: CSM

I will see you all there! I have to work 1 hour after the meeting so I'm gonna be sleeping up until 17:00-18:00, So if you try and get a hold of me in EUTZ tomorrow I might be passed out.

Feel free to join and chit chat before the meeting.

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Hey all!

So with the CSM XI Fall Summit coming up in September, I want to go into it with as much Wormhole related ideas as I can. My hopes are we can have 10-20 good ideas and the Devs can pick up 1-2 of them as a basis for ship-able features. Realistically what I want is for us to give them a collective impression of what our population likes and dislikes, and our solutions for what we don't like and new ideas for the future.

Format: Moderated Town Hall Style - Who ever has the TS details is welcome to come. The channel will be moderated where guests have their microphones muted and will be called upon to speak.

Date: Saturday August 13th 2016

Time Frame: 19:00-21:00 Eve Time. 2 hours is a long time but 1 hour is not enough time. I'll keep the pace of the meeting going and stay on topic as we move through our outline of topics.

Topics (subject to change):

  • Scanning and Wormhole connectivity, Frigate holes
  • PvE - Site spawn rate/lifetime, Low Class, High Class, Battleships > Capitals
  • PvP - FAX, Dreads, Content Drivers, Meta
  • Citadels - POS degradation, Missing Features/Requests
  • Bugs - Comprehensive list of Bugs ranked in priority. Bug Report IDs, and recreation videos.

Location: Hard Knocks Inc TS, a temp link will be given out later. Just check this thread the day of.


So this gives you 2 weeks notice. Please feel free come with google doc written out or spreadsheets. If we can't get to them in our meeting don't worry your well thought out voice will be heard. You can presend them to me in an Evemail or at noobman@csm.eve.com

Another thing depending on the success and aftermath of this town Hall, I plan to schedule a smaller group 2 weeks or so later to reflect on the outcomes of the larger Town Hall. This would be in the 20-25 person range and possibly have Devs if we want them and if they are available. If we don't decide to invite Devs don't worry I'm going to take all the fruits of our discussions and compose a presentation on our behalf to present at the Summit in front of the right Devs.

I will see you there. Other CSM will be invited to come as well. I'm looking forward to hearing from you and being productive. Trolls, disruptive or negative people will be quickly dealt with. ;)

Operations Director of Hard K(n)ocks Inc.

Winthorp
#2 - 2016-07-29 22:01:21 UTC
Arrow Delete frig holes.

Arrow Delete C6 space.

Arrow Nerf Fax's inside of Wh space.

Arrow Actually spend some real time on redoing wh escalations and not gimickie Drifter addon.

Arrow Raise income of all wh sites.

Arrow Auto site despawn timer not when just initiated a warp.

Arrow Fix C4 sites. (Spawn ranges and the glitching)

Arrow Fix scanning window to make red sig dots and bubble drag icons brighter.


#JOBDONE.
Ashley Traynor
Foxholers
#3 - 2016-07-29 22:35:54 UTC
Sounds great Noob :D

Definitely want to be there for this, there's a lot to be said about the current state of wormhole space
Alebrelle Kuatu
Interstellar Expeditionary Group
Einstein-Rosen Brigade
#4 - 2016-07-29 22:36:32 UTC
Winthorp wrote:
Arrow Delete frig holes.


Some of us like these, and think they add variety and complication to W-Space.

But, how about that "can only warp to the sig (and not bookmarks) shortly after downtime" bug getting fixed?
BangTime
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2016-07-30 15:14:42 UTC
I'm really curious what peoples thoughts are on rolling frig holes and being able to roll heavy connections with just a single capital atm. The fact that you can change your mass after starting to jump a connection is advantageous to the individual doing it but probably not that great for wormhole space as a whole.

Going to have to see about taking that afternoon off.
Shadowace Evi
CroGi
Gorathian Federation
#6 - 2016-07-30 17:58:34 UTC
Would love to see citadels getting probe launchers with a rig to make them crazy good to make scanning down your home systems a lot faster.
Cable Uta
V0LTA
skill urself
#7 - 2016-07-30 18:33:55 UTC
Winthorp wrote:


Arrow Raise income of all wh sites.

Arrow Auto site despawn timer not when just initiated a warp.



I agree to these 2 :)

currently WH income is the same as nullsec on a isk / hr basis per char used which is **** imo considering how hard it is to live in wormholes compared to null
Globby
Never Ignorant Gettin' Goals Accomplished
Gimme Da Loot
#8 - 2016-07-30 18:36:32 UTC
Winthorp wrote:
Arrow Delete frig holes.

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Arrow Nerf Fax's inside of Wh space.

Arrow Actually spend some real time on redoing wh escalations and not gimickie Drifter addon.

Arrow Raise income of all wh sites.

Arrow Auto site despawn timer not when just initiated a warp.

Arrow Fix C4 sites. (Spawn ranges and the glitching)

Arrow Fix scanning window to make red sig dots and bubble drag icons brighter.

Arrow add real anime girls to wormhole escalations so we have kawaii things to look at while farming 8 hours a day

Arrow integrate reddit into eve client


#JOBDONE.

Steven Ellecone
Full Broadside
#9 - 2016-07-30 18:58:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Steven Ellecone
Winthorp wrote:
Arrow Delete frig holes.

Arrow Delete C6 space.

Arrow Nerf Fax's inside of Wh space.

Arrow Actually spend some real time on redoing wh escalations and not gimickie Drifter addon.

Arrow Raise income of all wh sites.

Arrow Auto site despawn timer not when just initiated a warp.

Arrow Fix C4 sites. (Spawn ranges and the glitching)

Arrow Fix scanning window to make red sig dots and bubble drag icons brighter.


#JOBDONE.


+ Undo the nullsec holes nerf. Their lifetime is too short, and cutting the spawn rate has really hurt wormhole corps ability to roam null for content. This change was universally disliked by wormhole corps, it feels like we took a huge content nerf due to PL just using wormholes for what they were meant for.
Jonn Duune
Biomass Party
#10 - 2016-07-30 19:52:44 UTC
I may or may not be able to make it, but my thoughts:

ArrowIncrease number of frigate hole spawns, with a larger percentage going to k-space (preferably null or low)

Arrowgive c6s a dual static, either a null, or to 5/6 space

Arrowfix the low end sites in 5 and 6 space to be worth more isk, but with random wave triggers

Arrowaddress bug where null-sec holes die randomly when they aren't mass reduced or time crit

Arrow increase spawn rate of null connections in c4-c6 space

Arrowincrease spawn rate of null → null holes

My name is Jonn Duune, and I wholeheartedly support the message posted above.

TurboX3
Higher Than Everest
Pandemic Legion
#11 - 2016-07-30 19:55:11 UTC  |  Edited by: TurboX3
Allow supercapitals can use low-sec N944 and null S199 wormholes only... 1 jump & it collapses behind.
ofc it would need a new description to say the wormhole has full mass, maybe discussion on the mass.

Remove frigate wormholes - holy crap these useless!
Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication
G0N3 F1SS10N
#12 - 2016-07-30 22:28:02 UTC
If you send me the TS information, I would like to join in on this.


Winthorp wrote:


Arrow Fix scanning window to make red sig dots and bubble drag icons brighter.

#JOBDONE.

The icons for the sigs definitely need to be brighter - especially when selected.

Cloaking is the closest thing to a "Pause Game" button one can get while in space.

Support better localization for the Japanese Community.

Cordy
Nobody in Local
Of Sound Mind
#13 - 2016-07-30 22:35:37 UTC
If there was just one feature added I'd want it to be alliance bookmarks.

Right now each of the corps scanning down the chain have to manually copy across and share bookmarks. Sharing being dropping them off somewhere in a can or shuttle for the other corp to grab and import into their corp bookmarks. Being able to have anyone in the alliance scan the chain and everyone in the alliance be able to see the bookmarks would be huge.
Faith Xarnko
Wormbro
The Society For Unethical Treatment Of Sleepers
#14 - 2016-07-30 22:40:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Faith Xarnko
Looking forward to listening in on this, some ideas after talking with corpmates


Arrow Crest reliability improvements for 3rd party mapping tools for after IGB removed

Arrow Make gas clouds in combat sites less bright, they are currently blinding

Arrow Smaller mass on frig only, allowing them to be rolled

Arrow Do something better with c6/c5 - 2 statics

Arrow Increasing the profitability of mining in wormholes to be equivalent to null, more money for those that care, more targets for everyone else

Arrow Alliance Bookmarks/ increased limit on bookmarks

Arrow Fix the scanning window to make it clearer

Arrow Change spawns on certain combat/relic/data sites being 100km+ away
muhadin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2016-07-30 23:36:35 UTC  |  Edited by: muhadin
There are a couple of big changes that could happen that could really liven up wh space. However there are 3 major barriers. CCPs knowledge and vision of wormholes, which methods would be best, and to what degree any new method of balance should be scaled.

I believe that the WH CSM Rep and the WH Community have always been in a position to have our ideas have the most force for changes in wormhole space because of the lack of vision for wormholes within CCP. So make your ideas heard!

No offense to CCP, I understand that whs are a very small population of the player base, but they could be SO much better and have so much more activity. WH systems make up 30% of the total systems in eve, yet only less than 5% of the player base lives or uses them.

"Love the Life you Live, Live the Life you Love"

Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2016-07-30 23:49:04 UTC
NoobMan wrote:

Topics (subject to change):

  • Scanning and Wormhole connectivity, Frigate holes
  • PvE - Site spawn rate/lifetime, Low Class, High Class, Battleships > Capitals
  • PvP - FAX, Dreads, Content Drivers, Meta
  • Citadels - POS degradation, Missing Features/Requests
  • Bugs - Comprehensive list of Bugs ranked in priority. Bug Report IDs, and recreation videos.



C6 wormholes need a second static already. Frigate holes are annoying but I think they offer some interesting gameplay.

Wormhole anomalies honestly should only ever have a 24 hour lifetime. People also need a reason to use capitals to run c5/6 sites again, no capitals to dunk in high class space makes this boring af.

FAXes need a massive change. Imo they need to have their tanking and cap bonuses removed and given flat hp instead. This helps null doctrines also and balances out wspace where a fax isn't such a huge force multiplier.

Dreads I've not seen too many issues with them.

Citadels need better hangar organisation. We should be able to set up secure containers within them so people have a shared space for alts. The delivery system is awful for this.
Cyclo Hexanol
NANO CONSPIRACY
lllllllllllllllll
#17 - 2016-07-31 00:31:37 UTC
Winthorp wrote:


Arrow Raise income of all wh sites.



Correct me if I am wrong but isn't it in wormholes where people brag about the dank 400 million isk/hour or something? Why does every wormhole site need increased income?

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Seraph Essael
Anomalous Existence
Spatial Instability
#18 - 2016-07-31 03:50:54 UTC
I will attempt to be there, if work allows it... But I will make sure someone from my corps leadership is there. Will be very interested to hear this.

Arrow Give C6 space 2 statics, potentially make it so that it is C4 and below and unable to carry capitals.

Arrow Make wormholes more profitable than hisec (not that I am into PvE, but we still should have more voice for the PvE folk). Not only that, should the day that Wormholes become more profitable than Incursions (which I know will probably never happen) we will hopefully see an influx of people coming to wormholes...More people = more content.

Arrow For gods sake fix the damned scanning window brightness (I am still using the old scanning because of this)

Arrow I would like to see more wondering holes spawn. But that's a personal thing... More scanning for me to do and to be able to find more targets.

:Reserved for more points after I spoke to corp:

Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."

Sojourn
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2016-07-31 03:54:16 UTC
Is this going to be moderated fairly, or is it just going to be full of Hard Knocks folk sperging all over the place and getting only their own voices heard? I can imagine there will be no love for the PvE crowd during this meeting.













... Wait, I already know the answers to these ...
Winthorp
#20 - 2016-07-31 05:41:05 UTC
Sojourn wrote:
Is this going to be moderated fairly, or is it just going to be full of Hard Knocks folk sperging all over the place and getting only their own voices heard? I can imagine there will be no love for the PvE crowd during this meeting.
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TBH if you have ever interacted with Noobman and the majority of HK people you will find them to be not how their public image is at all, besides a couple of them they are stand up dudes.

I also think you will find they PVE more then you or anyone in wh space hahaha.
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