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Making ISK into a cash in-game item
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Hendrix Foster
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-07-27 12:26:59 UTC
Hi folks,

Was thinking today about this and sorry if it's been proposed before and dismissed.....but how about somehow introducing isk as a cash item you can aquire in the game alongside the electronic nature of transactions that is now the case?

What I mean is, that you can have isk in bundles to smaller or larger amounts as an item like anything else.

There would obviously have to be advantages and drawbacks to it as is with most other stuff...which i would be happy to hear any suggestions.

For example:
- Pirates drop rare isk cash bundles to greater or lesser extents depending on where they are killed as they cannot use the same isk transfer system everyone else does. Players could then refund (or keep the cash as it has other uses/benefits) at some places for a higher price (like pirate tags are) as the authorities want to get the cash back as it hinders bad guy operations or something.
- Perhaps in certain ways in null/low sec there could be an advantage for players somehow if you paid in cash for something.
- Maybe something could be slightly cheaper if you pay in cash as opposed to the normal electronic way.
- Maybe there could be some advantages to having cash to research/invention in far-flung places or if you need a bit of help with a npc agent etc.
- Make it so that if you risk carrying it then it can get you out of a tight spot.

The above idea are simply idle suggestions to make the idea clearer.

It would have to be the old risk vs reward thing of having it around and it would make it very interesting for ganking/pvp/pve.........although I'm not sure how it would affect the markets, but that would adjust like it does with everything else.

If this idea has any merit then it would require some serious thought from players and devs.....but could be a great addition imo.

Would be nice to hear what others think.....as I said, apologies if it has been mentioned before.

Cheers
Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#2 - 2016-07-27 12:58:05 UTC
So the items would have to be coded in. A redemption method would be need to be coded as well. Loot tables would have to be adjusted and balanced, plus testing performed on this new system.... All for just one more isk source? I get the idea from a role playing perspective. In theory, it matches real world to some degree too. However, what value does this add to the game? It doesn't seem to be anything new or ground breaking. Maybe there could be some laundering missions for pirate factions. Maybe isk bundles could be contraban that could cause some risk vs reward game play with custom officials. Still, it just seems like a lot of work for the devs, extra work for players, with little new game play added.

What I'm trying to say is that this does not strike me as a feature that is worth the cost of development. If dev resources were free and unlimited, go for it. Otherwise, I can't think of any exciting game play or niche career this would bring into our sand box.
Thomas Lot
London Elektricity
#3 - 2016-07-27 13:13:48 UTC
uhm... no.
Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
#4 - 2016-07-27 13:15:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Gadget Helmsdottir
This already exists in certain forms, eg. Overseer's personal affects, lower tags, etc.

And besides, (and I'll have to research this a bit more to be sure) but I could swear that the concept of ISK was that it was totally digital due to it's nature.
Items like "A Lot of Money" from the Sisters Arc are supposed to be in planetary currency, not ISK.

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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#5 - 2016-07-27 13:23:51 UTC
Somehow I suspect the OP just wishes he could gank/kill people and get *all* of their isk in the process PPirate

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#6 - 2016-07-27 13:42:14 UTC
Is it that difficult to locate and post in the Features and Ideas forum area?



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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#7 - 2016-07-27 13:45:50 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Is it that difficult to locate and post in the Features and Ideas forum area?

Yes. Only a true master of the forums could possibly find it.

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

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Hendrix Foster
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2016-07-27 14:13:42 UTC
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Somehow I suspect the OP just wishes he could gank/kill people and get *all* of their isk in the process PPirate


With the greatest respect, I'm not sure if you read the post properly. I wasn't saying you should get all their ISK...just if they happen to be carrying it (in cash) like anything else. Secondly, you assuming that I'm a ganker is a huge assumption.....actually the opposite is true.

I just asked a reasonable question regarding a genuine idea.

Cheers
Lord LazyGhost
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2016-07-27 14:32:56 UTC
Hendrix Foster wrote:
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Somehow I suspect the OP just wishes he could gank/kill people and get *all* of their isk in the process PPirate


With the greatest respect, I'm not sure if you read the post properly. I wasn't saying you should get all their ISK...just if they happen to be carrying it (in cash) like anything else. Secondly, you assuming that I'm a ganker is a huge assumption.....actually the opposite is true.

I just asked a reasonable question regarding a genuine idea.

Cheers




Yes but you asked that reasonable question on the eve forums........

you more then likely would have got more information and less trolling from posting on the WoW forums.

I like the idea cash for cheaper services
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#10 - 2016-07-27 16:17:51 UTC
Historically there is only 1 player group that would stand to benefit greatly from forcing people to haul cash around everywhere to get discounts.

The same people who want you to fly your skill injectors and PLEX around in your cargo-hold...

Can hardly blame me for being somewhat suspicious of your motives, even if you didn't come out and explicitly say you are a ganker...

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
Dark Lord Trump
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#11 - 2016-07-27 23:54:15 UTC
Come back when you've fully fleshed out your idea instead of just "um well maybe stuff could be cheaper for no reason if you pay in cash and stuff." Also, get you out of a tight spot? Did you seriously just suggest we add a PLEX tank into the game?

I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2016-07-28 11:57:42 UTC
Only good to come from this would be if it was a way for isk to be detroyed and removed from the economy.


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Xtreem
Knockaround Guys Inc.
#13 - 2016-07-28 14:33:17 UTC
If memory serves either in the very early release or one of the betas you could indeed have isk in your hanger. much like item stacks.