EVE General Discussion

Nah, I was gonna claim that the launch button use to be at the bottom of the NeoCom. I could also claim that the NeoCom use to have words the the left of the icons to tell you what they were at a glance and the clock use to show date as well.

Don't worry, I wouldn't believe it for one second either.

It's in CCP's best interest to keep changes that "their statistics show" keep more new players, than a previous method. It should not matter to players, what number their statistics happen to show, because CCP's financial stake in the outcome gives them no reason to keep a change that is worse in terms of player retention.

I am not having trouble adapting to the neocom icons, with exception of Notepad being very similar to Journal; the notepad design is narrow by comparison. I wouldn't fix my problem by adding color; I would just take the pen / pencil away from one of the icons. I position them in the same places right next to each other for all characters, so the difference between the two is more apparent than if they were separated by other icons.

The opportunities map was intended to solve the problem of new players being introduced to EVE by a mission-based system, then funneled to a set of mission agents, working up the ladder of levels and some thinking that's all there is to EVE. That said, we know since Fanfest that CCP is working on adding a story element back into the NPE.

For those who forget nice NEOCOM
http://i.imgur.com/pBd0j8v.jpg

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Hey, I'm a returning player from 2003, 2007 and 2009 and I really love the new UI.

Watched some old eve videos and I do not miss the old colors at all !

Those new icons/shapes do work fine on new players, it took me about 2/3 hours to recognize easily every icons.
Also there is a good synergy in the UI now that really make the game feel AAA quality.

This would actually be nice, too. Good catch.

Share drafts.
Hand drawn on paper preferred, photoshops only with direct comparison.

The windows seem pretty minimalistic to me and I don't argue about the UI ...
... because you'd probably be right ...
... soooooooo .......
... I'm curious what you can come up with?

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(WE WERE GANKED ... twice)

Oh gaud don't get me started on this "looks like it was created by a 4th grader with crayons and construction paper, metro gui, unified mobile device look alike" BS of an UI. There were many, many threads on this exact topic both before and after the change. I don't see CCP suddenly (or ever) retracting this abomination.

And yes, this is my opinion. Your's may be different, but statically not likely. (based on previous threads on the subject)

So am I!!! LOL!

Really, all UI comes down to preference.

That's why the Overview is really awesome in that you can pick and choose what's on each tab and how many tabs there are in use. If the different 'elements' of the UI could be done in the same way, with different configuration files you could load, it would be completely awesome.

Instead of piles of windows, think fixed frames. You pick how the screen 'looks' with the frames and what's in them, along with their various sizes. Then you could share the config files, almost like theme files, and the best ones would get massive shares... almost like ship fittings.

You really have two types of data on the UI: Active and Passive. Active being stuff you need to see 'right now' or always. Passive is stuff you use to look something up or do when you're docked or not doing anything at serious risk. Those two concepts alone should dictate what you see and how you see it. So your 'space' config could be completely different from your 'docked' config.

Things like Dscan and Overview show almost identical data and that's normally a indicator of something that could be combined and made more concise.

Probes/Anomaly scanner is just bizzare since you have to bring up the big Map just to actually use probes. It's a 3D graphic 'mini-game' and pretty much a drain on the actual utility of it, especially those of us playing on a single monitor. Probes should be 'smarter' than that and you 'sick' them on a target. They should be able to be outfitted like a ship, made smarter or faster or more accurate. Then they feed you back information whenever they have it. Cheap probes might be able to get you a ship target in 10 minutes or WH in 5. Expensive or high end ones get you both in seconds if you have the right implants and the data is resolved in the Anomaly window. It also makes capturing and/or shooting a probe something of value so it should be allowed.

So you can combine UI clean up concepts with game play improvements as well. I'll put more thought into it and see if I can mock something up.

We are staring for hours on the neocom. So why not make it customable? If you like colors, you can get colors. Or grouping. One design, however good it may be, will never fit everyone. Let the players decide what they like. Maybe even add some "space" element to separate things. I would like colors.