Player Features and Ideas Discussion

What exactly do you mean by nerfing ganking? And the use of the words theme park and softies made me laugh, get away with you...

I must try double-wrapping 1 unit of tritanium and park a freighter carrying the stuff outside Jita 4-4 and see what happens.

First of all ganking is always going to exist in this game contrary to how the HTFU crowd like to say otherwise, what they mean when they say nerf ganking is anything that makes it more difficult, even when it is to remove something that was massively to their advantage.

Lets take a few examples of what people call nerfing ganking, CCP decided to change the DCU II to a passive modules, which you do not switch on, so they adjusted the structures on various ships including freighters that could not use it. And the gankers cried nerf.

Another one, no consequence bumping to hold people in space, there is now going to be a timer, do you call that a nerf to ganking or an adjustment of a poor mechanic.

At the moment they scoop loot by parking a DST next to a wreck and their freighter, incomes a noob ship which scoops the loot into the DST fleet hanger, the freighter pilot scoops that into his hanger, the noob ship goes suspect and can be shot. Would adjusting that be a nerf to ganking or a nerf to loot scooping.

When people talk about such things, they get accused of wanting to nerf ganking, when in fact a lot of the time they are talking about poor mechanic which remove consequences.

At one point the wrecks all had the saem EHP, which is kinda silly, the AG guys were shooting wrecks so they could not scoop the loot, suddenly and very quickly CCP changed it so the wrecks had more EHP based on the ship size, the AG players said, wow, they acted fast on that, makes sense however, but is a pity and moved on. Who is being a softy here?

Hisec is not safe, ganking and war decs are always going to be in this game, most of the forum fights are around mechanic and balance changes that make it less of a cake walk or less like taking candy from a baby.

For example this beauty from this thread, Gankers use scouts, some use frigates and they can be ganked with a Catalyst, Aaaarg and his Smurf alts use Thrashers to scout which cannot be taken down by a Catalyst before the gate guns blow the Catalyst up, you have to use a plated Thorax. I don't agree with the proposal put forward by the OP, but I understand his frustration.

Currently there are three threads in the forums where gankers are moaning about the Skiff because they are not able to up their game to gank them. They have the ability to gank them if they work as a team and if they have the will, but they do not and are calling for a nerf to yield and tank. If you are interested in fighting a good start would be not to parrot their baseless propaganda but to learn the reality, as well as blowing up their scouts and gank ships, if you do this enough you might then learn just how easy they have it in some areas.

Damn, my reply disappeared, will rewrite later...

Edit:
Basically I wrote that I don't have enough knowledge to judge all you wrote about the mechanics Dravclad.

I just want EvE to be super dangerous, even in high sec, but I also feel the risk/effort/profit principle should be applied in all cases.

I define 'hostile act' as: Being in the same constellation as me and not in my fleet/alliance.

You link to an offline channel..

Ok lets make this simple. How do you squeeze 1,000,000 m3 package through a 60,000 m3 hold?

I vote for that.

Either create a mod or add a bonus to certain ships that doesn't allow you to be scanned without you seeing who. They can scan you all they want but if you are fit for it, then you will see them scanning you.

At least gives you some insight on who is peeking in your "window"

FTFY

I know its impossible.