Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I know I'm late to the party here, but this reminded me of a fond memory:


Ironically about a week into EVE I got a fancy new module called a "ship scanner" - and I tried it out on a random passerby.

As it turned out, this passerby was a member of a corp called "Interimo" - which was in an alliance called "End of Line." (though they are probably better known for their time in Privateer Alliance). In any case it was one of the big wardeccing groups of the time...

He took it as a hostile act...and thus began my first war-dec in EVE.

Good times.

Umm.. Im siting here thinking about this and getting ideas. This is generally NOT a good thing but Ill go with it anyway.

Atm scanning and ganking are quite binary as an equation. There really isnt much more than calculate your dps and their EHP along with value of your ships and your targets drop chance in terms of isk. Once this condition is met you simply lock and fire and that is that. Go sit out your 15 min timer and rinse repeat unless youre low on sec and then you head off to concord station to "reship" sec with tags.

So how can we make it non binary? Scanning modules offer the greatest area to play with this idea as the gank itself is just lock and shoot. We already have a hacking minigame template but what happens if you needed to hack into the ships security system, instead of 'press buttan recieve bacon' style gameplay, and while the hack is going on the other player becomes your opponent in the hacking minigame. You either are racing for the command node itself to attack or defend or the pilot is the defender and the ganker is only the attacker.

This style of interaction would be interesting but tough simply because of the time frames involved in the gank itself. A frieghter warps in 20s or so and a hauler in much less. Being bumped would negate the time frame of course. But a successful attack might mean that the cargo is scanned and can be reported as a target and an unsuccessful attempt would amount to what? Denial of cargo scan? Immunity for bumping? Scanner going suspect?

The only issue at present is the time required to attack/defend such an attempt and it would apply the best to freighters given that issue imo. But basically any idea that makes this interaction non binary would be the best option. Rather than fitting and other BS answers we toss about. Anything to make it more challenging rather than 'push buttan receive bacon.'

Hisec pvp has never really been my thing.
However, nothing makes me want to go on a cruel ganking spree more than the summer rash of anti-ganking threads.
The idea that such a spree will kill the game is going to need some stats to back it up.
That won't happen.

Something tells me is a satirical troll.


But still, Can I get a ONE MORE NERF?


EDIT: Maybe not, either he's in it for the long run, or he really believes it.

aaaannnndddd WRONG.

Ship scanners are used in Armageddons to monitor another ship's capacitor.
Also useful to make sure "is this a cyno ship?"
And if you want to check out the enemy's Augoror fit with a neutral alt before going in deep, you guessed it: ZKill or Shipscanner!
How do we know the container we're about to hack is not worth our trouble? ....

This is really getting ridiculous.

Was CODE right all along? WERE THEY?! ffs man up.

Blockade runner bingo is a thing. Actually no need to double-wrap, just don't afk and use your cloak = happytimes

It's actually beneficial to general-purpose intel gathering.

Remember how we spin a yarn about active effort to gather intelligence, as opposed to receiving it automatically, for free, on a silver platter? Well, having to scan for contents is one of the "active effort" category.

Take that away and you have no way of verifying your nose when you smell trap.

The fact that gankers also happen to use this particular module has little to do with anything -- I say the same thing to gankers when they come up with bumping or looting exploits. In this case though ...... You can't ask gankers to "pick their targets more carefully" and then take away the tools to actually do so.

Ima Wreckyou is gonna love this but yea. Basically it's a preposterous idea and it'll get locked as soon as the comedy value runs out methinks.

To be fair ... second whine thread in two days makes me want to fit up a throwaway Thorax and vent some anger towards this excessive tearjerking. I realize all too well what that would make me. But seriously they got to stop or I swear I will.