EVE General Discussion

Moving along to a new home across New Eden is pure ebola.

If you actually do it with 8 Carriers, 2 supers, 2 dreads, and a JF, then you will instantly realize you need to do 1 of 2 things in your eve life.

1. Find a space place you like, and never move again.

2. Get rid of all your capital assets before you move again.

3 days to move 2 regions is not only insane, but it lacks anything other than a necessity to literally play Eve 24/7.

Sorry CCP, but I already invest enough time and money into your sandbox.

Jump Fatigue has literally made invasions, peaceful redeployments.

If your enemy can un-anchor literally every citadel and POS before you get there, what is the point of a war game that only mirrors a UN Deployment?

No shots fired, bad guys run off and set up elsewhere.

Only thing that comes of this is the ability to save lots of Isk and literally own 0 capitals.

Fatigue needs to be fixed.

Either increase the jump range back to 15 LY and keep the fatigue, or lose the fatigue and keep it at 5. One or the other, but the current game play sucks. Period.

Thanks CCP!

Oh boo hoo... Moving is hard! Now imaging having to do all that in Hi Sec where there are no jumps at all and you have to use gates the whole way..... In a bowhead or charon.... Through multiple systems that are over 150 AU in length. Been there, done that, you have no idea how easy it us when you can jump, even if you have to feel with fatigue.

By the way... That same jump fatigue you complain about is also why every single enemy capital ship didn't come running and harass you every strong the way. They wanted to be able to get home without encountering huge jump fatigue penalties.

Doc's tiny violin.. let him play it for you.

Shoulda kept your space? Just came from a deployment several regions away. Had fun. Would/will do again.

Find people to fight that are closer to you.

Sure, teleporting across the map was bad, but the current jump fatigue regime is worse. ll it did really was create a kind of lcoal supremacy that no one (even if they have a super fleet) can come and fight against).

I experienced that on Jun 28 (on month ago) when PL dropped a Nyx on my Navy Vexor..... So Jump Fatigue didn't solve any PL boredom issues.

they don't need to kill Jump Fatigue, but they do need to loosen it up a bit, I got 5 days of fatigue just moving to a new home no long ago, it's ridiculous.

I bet your ganking alt ganks poor HS transporters in HS like Lady Ayeipsia ??? I can guarantee more isk is lost to HS ganks than that of the "poor" isk farmers in null having to move cause the couldn't undock to fight.

Not sure I agree here.

Sure you still have bored supers, but their area of impact is much smaller, and it's perfectly possible that if you'd been bait that Nyx might have gotten dropped by a bunch of Dreads and a HIC and gone down in a ball of fire, as so many other Supers have in recent months.

It's also very possible to move large cap and Super fleets around if you actually want to engage someone with their own large Capital or Super assets. MBC certainly did it when they kicked goons out of the north, they just turned out to not have to in retrospect. It also means you have to actually commit your Caps and Supers if you want to reach out and touch someone, because you can't just have them halfway across the universe in half an hour with a few well placed Cyno alts.

IMO, while the current situation is a bit frustrating for Capital and Supers pilots the previous one was more frustrating overall for *everyone*. If Supers and Caps in general were demonstrably not being used because of this then I'd agree, but they very definitely are.

In fact post-Jump Fatigue there was a distinct up-tick in kills *and losses* for all combat capitals that's sustained pretty well over the last two years. I'll see about throwing together a graph based on the Z-kill stats when I get home because I was actually a bit surprised at how much and how distinctly things changed before and after the Nov 4th 2014 change.

Should have undocked to defend your space.

Moving assets around in EVE is a *****. That's why I don't move stuff; I just let it sit there and buy new stuff at my new location.

if there is one thing i hate in eve more than anything else, that be managing assets. whether it be by gate travel or cynos moving **** takes way too much time. CCP will not change this because 1 hauling contracts are real 2 cargo ships need a role 3 providing opportunities for pvpers.


edit jump fatigue was a good idea, so was the jump range nerf.... however both together was overkill. the intention was to limit power projection of big alliances, not to totally wipe out the desire to use capitals, and one or the other would have been fine.