EVE General Discussion

EVE is working, but its working just a litle? Or to its full potential? Where is the ful potential of EVE? In being a prison simulator?

Free to play is like hard drugs for a game. Sure, the game is madly profitable....for a few months.

Name a game that has had a sustainable FTP model. One of EvE's greatest strength is that it is an enduring, persistent game, which is played over years, rather than the latest whale trap out there on the game market.

No, not your choosing. If PvP is going to happen it is beyond your control, at least entirely. You can try to dissuade people from shooting you. You can be prepared to GTFO if someone looks like they are going to shoot you. But that's it.

Griefing has a definition in this game and it does not include ganking.

Yes, do you have professional analysis of it? I dont, CCP probably know more than you or me. But they will not share. Only actual changes to the game can show what is their intend on removing the trends.

Lets be honest, we players know little about developing the games. We dont make a living doing them. They do.

Well if everyone has been telling you what the game is like...why to you stubbornly and obtusely insist on trying to play it as a completely different game? You don't play chess as if it were checkers. You don't play Eve as if it were one of dozes of other games where PvP was essentially consensual. Hell it is right there in the name...

Eve or more accurately, EvE as in Everyone vs. Everyone.

Edit: BTW, that first one is a serious question. You know what this game is like. You have read the forums. Yet you keep insisting on wanting to make the game something than it was. Why did you even start playing? Serious question...I want to understand the though process here.

Eve is a strictly PvP game, even the PvE is there to enable PvP when you get down to it.

That being the case, I hear there's plenty of good shooters out there.

Eve or more accurately, EvE as in Everyone vs. Everyone.

Whilst in your mind Everyone vs Everyone might evoke your interpretation of what the game is meant to be, it doesn't specify that EvE is and should be simply shooting each other in spaceships.

Whilst it seems that PVP combat fans cling on to that notion like a protective talisman and seem insistently content to browbeat others with a different outlook, Everyone vs Everyone can just as easily apply to non-combative gameplay and competition in other areas such as industry, trade, resource harvesting, exploration and all the other professions which CCP's own marketing for the game suggests are viable gameplay options.

Mining for example might very well be amongst the most boring and derided tasks available in the game, but in my experience, the conversations and easy camaraderie in the mining fleet channels I've been party to have more than compensated, and are certainly more enjoyable than having fleet commanders leading you through countless gates derelict systems and yelping incoherently when their hunter-killer master plans fall flat.

Working as intended. Just because player X does not want to shoot your does not mean player Y won't.

Eve is a game about spontaneous order. So yeah, people might not start shooting everything in sight. That's fine. That you can't see past your own little corner and appreciate the examples of spontaneous order is a shame.

Let me add, that when some players decide not to shoot each other and do something else...something outside of the game mechanics such as building a coalition, or something like OTEC, or even CODE. That is something that makes Eve unique among games.

And again...Eve, a terrible game where the players make it interesting and fun. I don't even begrudge the people who pushed us out of our space up in the North. I had lots of fun fights...and some boring ones. But again, in turn those people sitting in our old systems in Branch...they'll be pushed out too.