EVE General Discussion

TBH, I think the game itself is better than it was when I first started some years ago. But yeah, mission running needs some major work. I absolutely refuse to do missions. Maybe replace some missions with tasks that give the player some room to find their own solutions e.g. retrieve some gizmo which can be dropped by belt rats, found in hacking sites or bought off the market.

I've always hated missions.

Maybe we are already behind the specific event horizon and everything new they will try wil only make things worse.
It will not make new players because of game reputation, and it will cause leaving of the old ones because it doesnt fit their HTFU mood. Either way, I wil be here to watch that.


Because of reasons.

I promised myself I will be here to the end, no matter what. I will not abandon the ship I flied so long.

Why are they playing a game like Eve, which is explicitly marketed as a PvP game, if they don't want to play a PvP game?

Hiding in an NPC corp to avoid wardecs is no guarentee of PvP not happening to you. Removing the ability to activate weapons on another player in hisec without a PvP flag will hopefully never happen; if it does it'll affect the game in many ways, none of them good.

That's a PvE activity, it doesn't become PvP unless you're directly competing with another player for the same rock or until the minerals, or goods produced with the minerals, hit the market.

There's no force about it, if people fail to realise that PvP can happen to them at any time, for any or no reason then that's their problem, it's not like the advertising suggests that you'll be left in peace to carry out your activities despite it being a PvP game.

Examples? No more ganks? So cruel to CODE? How they would save the High sec then, when CCP would save everybody.

They do, regularly.

For example, the This is Eve trailer features pipe bombing, the Butterfly Effect trailer features a miner being attacked, and the Retribution trailer opens with Vic, who likes to take out miners.

Pretty much every Eve news article that hits the mainstream and gaming press is about somebody getting bent over and screwed without so much as a kiss or some lube.

CCP have never hidden the PvP nature of the game, it's quite well known in the general gaming community too. There are other games that are similar to Eve in many respects including the freedom to just pop a cap in someone for any reason; their forums are full of the same kind of topics we see here, "greifers", "unfair", "no content".

It's not a problem with the games, or the developers, it's a consumer problem; most consumers don't want that kind of game, hence the term niche gaming, the games only appeal to the few.

IMHO CCP is under pressure from investors to push into the more mainstream market in order to garner more profit, if this is the case then I think CCP are doomed to fail if they try to do it with Eve; it's not polished enough, not simple enough, the PvE is dire and the game has a hard earned reputation that they'll find hard to shake off.

Numbers are declining.

I think if they want to keep Eve alive they need to be aware of their ongoing space genre competition and what is being offered ... such as NoMansSky, Star Citizen, Elite Dangerous, etc. Beg, borrow, or steal some of the ideas and new game play being implemented/introduced in these other space games. That ... or become eventually extinct.

I also think we are on the verge of seeing VR technology explode in the game market, and become a common feature for all new game releases - in the coming years. Eve will need to become VR capable.

Curiosity is fine, the problem arises when the curious find Eve, find that it's not to their liking and lobby CCP to change the very nature of the game to suit them.

I've been PvEing my way around Eve for 7 years, the PvE is banal; outwitting, outrunning, and out-thinking other players who would like to stop me from doing it is where the fun is.

Its the same thing over and over again with EVE.

That is why they develop new games.

Meh, just know I do accept danger and do low sec exploration, maybe you think I am a full time carebear with adversity towards danger. I am willing to accept risk if it comes with reward. That is good PvE with potentially becoming PvP, or not, my choosing.

What is wrong for me is the ability to grief others. Doent it bother you? How often you are wardeced and being ganked? What do you do all the time? Those who are left dont really bother with it. Those who did left the game. So meh.