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Mach is GLORIOUS!

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Forum Toon
Doomheim
#1 - 2016-07-10 16:41:36 UTC
amazing ship.
I was bored to hell in eve and decided it was time to try the mach, got some skills and ****** fit and set to try it in action.

The blap... omg.. the blap... glorious!

800Autocannon hitting to 50Km +- with that lovely speed... I'm in love.

Decided it's high time to pimp it and perfect the needed skills.

1. To which degree you pimp your mach? T2 is enough? Faction? mix som deadspace shield rep?
2. Armor or shield rep? I want max blap power but not to warp out every 2 minutes.
3. TE to Gyro ratio?
4. Gun rigs or AU speed rigs?

cheers
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2016-07-10 17:58:38 UTC
1. Go all purple. Just kidding, a Dread Guristas X-L booster should be enough bling
2. Shield
3. 3 gyro 3 TE 1 nanofiber
4. Warpspeed

Basically you want to just have the bare minimum tank on it since you do so much dps you can remove much of the incoming damage before you need to actually tank.

This of course only works if you're paying attention and are manually piloting to match transversal etc

You might also want to think about getting a sensor booster to lock faster as your scan resolution is still battleship level
Forum Toon
Doomheim
#3 - 2016-07-10 18:38:31 UTC
good point on sensor booster!

and what are your thoughts on MWD over AB?

and awareness is what makes this ship so awesome, unlike my old AFK gila or MJD snipers this actually feels like those epic space battles from the cinema or TV series' I've watched.
maneuvering... blaping targets... epic.
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
#4 - 2016-07-10 18:46:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
Its a mach, its begging for a mwd.
Though i do see a lot of km's with shiny ab's so might be something to that.
Forum Toon
Doomheim
#5 - 2016-07-10 18:51:36 UTC
Hmm I'll try with your recommended changes thanks
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
Brave Collective
#6 - 2016-07-10 19:19:41 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Its a mach, its begging for a mwd.
Though i do see a lot of km's with shiny ab's so might be something to that.


Might also be a reason that the core x-type only costs like ~40m -ish.

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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#7 - 2016-07-10 20:02:33 UTC
Armor and shield are pretty comparable on this particular ship. Compare:

[Machariel, modern mach]
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Core C-Type 500MN Microwarpdrive
X-Large Shield Booster II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Amplifier II
EM Ward Amplifier II

800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet EMP L
[empty high slot]

Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II

974 at 3.8+61, tanks enough, 1688m/s.

[Machariel, armor pve]
Core X-Type Large Armor Repairer
Armor Thermal Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Gyrostabilizer II

Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Core C-Type 500MN Microwarpdrive
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script

800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L
[empty high slot]

Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Large Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II

1031 at 3.9+63, tanks enough, looks shiny but really isn't, 1542 m/s.

They both work fine; pick your poison. Armor is easier on cpu; shield is easier on grid (which makes refitting to 1400s more of an option should you ever want to, say, pop Scarlet on a blitz).
Zoltan Lazar
#8 - 2016-07-11 07:12:34 UTC
Tengu does it better.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
Brave Collective
#9 - 2016-07-11 10:52:22 UTC
Zoltan Lazar wrote:
Tengu does it better.


What exactly? Armor tanking?

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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
#10 - 2016-07-11 11:10:22 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
Zoltan Lazar wrote:
Tengu does it better.


What exactly? Armor tanking?

I bet he means blaping things with artilery.
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#11 - 2016-07-11 12:04:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Sobaan Tali
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
elitatwo wrote:
Zoltan Lazar wrote:
Tengu does it better.


What exactly? Armor tanking?

I bet he means blaping things with artilery.


Silly goose; everyone knows you're suppose to use hybrids on a Tengu, not projectiles.

Roll Artillery on a Tengu. Pff, amateurs!

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."

Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2016-07-11 22:11:55 UTC
[Macha- "Blap Blap"]


Domination Gyrostabilizer x3
Domination Tracking Enhancer x2
Domination Nanofiber Structure
Domination Inertial Stabilizers

Domination EM Ward Field
Domination Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Domination X-Large Shield Booster
Domination Shield Boost Amplifier
Domination 500MN Microwarpdrive

Domination 800mm Repeating Cannon, Domination Fusion L x7
[Empty High slot]

Large Targeting System Subcontroller I
Large Core Defense Operational Solidifier II
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II


'Integrated' Warrior x5
'Integrated' Valkyrie x5
'Integrated' Berserker x2

this fit was built like two years ago, when i was doing almost nothing and had time to assemble it py pieces. This is "true" Angels doctrine fit with all those exceptions that Domi's mods at least some of those are not same effective as another faction ones but idc. It looks sexy.

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Ormly
Matari Exodus
#13 - 2016-07-11 22:45:17 UTC
Pith X-type XL Booster is like 85-100mil atm. Cheapo Pith C-type XL Booster is a paltry 40 mil or something. Would at least bling that while it's cheap.
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#14 - 2016-07-12 09:16:30 UTC
Something I noticed people are forgetting for their Mach fits, you can toss an Auto Targeting System I to get 9 max target locks, especially if you're not fitting a tractor or neut or something instead. Not gonna make or break your fit, but just FYI in case you indeed have an empty high and too little CPU or Grid for anything else.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."

Raging Bull Unchained
Signal Lost
#15 - 2016-07-12 09:33:04 UTC
Mach is GLORIOUS! and LOOKS SEXY!

Just so someone mentioned it.
I Myself prepeare to jump into my Rattlenake someone gave to me.
But while i m in the rattle i´ll grind isk + skills for the mach :P
Lan Wang
Knights of the Posing Meat
Snuffed Out
#16 - 2016-07-12 09:44:15 UTC
Tiddle Jr wrote:
[Macha- "Blap Blap"]


Domination Gyrostabilizer x3
Domination Tracking Enhancer x2
Domination Nanofiber Structure
Domination Inertial Stabilizers

Domination EM Ward Field
Domination Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Domination X-Large Shield Booster
Domination Shield Boost Amplifier
Domination 500MN Microwarpdrive

Domination 800mm Repeating Cannon, Domination Fusion L x7
[Empty High slot]

Large Targeting System Subcontroller I
Large Core Defense Operational Solidifier II
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II


'Integrated' Warrior x5
'Integrated' Valkyrie x5
'Integrated' Berserker x2

this fit was built like two years ago, when i was doing almost nothing and had time to assemble it py pieces. This is "true" Angels doctrine fit with all those exceptions that Domi's mods at least some of those are not same effective as another faction ones but idc. It looks sexy.


Gist's in the mids are much more pizaz

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ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2016-07-12 10:09:32 UTC
Nightmares better...

No Worries

Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#18 - 2016-07-12 11:07:50 UTC
ChromeStriker wrote:
Nightmares better...


At being a laser boat? Well, sure it is, just like the Macharial is a better autocannon boat.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."

embrel
BamBam Inc.
#19 - 2016-07-12 11:58:10 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Its a mach, its begging for a mwd.
Though i do see a lot of km's with shiny ab's so might be something to that.


I use an AB on my Mach. The AB runs permanently. Mitigates quite some damage it seems as I hardly ever have to cycle the shield booster. It's fast enough with the AB for L4s at least when I remember to boat to the gate at the last few rats.
Kalihira
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#20 - 2016-07-12 12:38:21 UTC
Barghest is better
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