EVE General Discussion

The loot is fine, I made a good amount on the implants that drop, the BPC is sweet indeed, it's just excessive in it's build requirements, it's nonsensical. If you continue to support unrealistic build requirements for stuff and accept this ridiculous material cost of the Vehement, you open the door for worse.

The price of the Vehement should be controlled by the scarcity of the BPC like every other single faction item in the game, not on unrealistic build req's.

I can explain that for you, seeing as I am in the best position to explain my own words, rather than you asking for support from trolls.

I am not sure why you added your own meaning into what I said, I never suggested my age was any sort of advantage. It's simply a statement intended to convey that my post has 10 years of eve experience behind it. Perhaps if you were less pedantic and capable of addressing the core points of my post you wouldn't have to nitpick little details that annoy you because you lack the capacity to post any coherent, erudite response.

The big "win" is not the vehement bpc, but being in the top 10 so you can get the other "Real" rewards.

Vanquisher and Vendetta BPC's are going to be the "Win"..

I do agree that something seems seriously unbalanced by the manufacturing cost on these prints, I know that there are some in the oven, but that's really not the point. CCP seems to be using these items as a way to drain minerals from the game or something. The install cost on them will be massive too. Some people could say it is a reward for highly efficient and productive corps, but to me it looks like they are just trying to see how much people in the current playerbase are willing to pay for items.

A ton of the players just seem to have little understanding of value. I know that it's just internet game monies, but you would still think that some people could do basic math.
For example, Copper Accelerators are only today reaching price parity with the cost of injectors, and that's for players who have > 80m SP.. I think CCP can see how dumb some of the players are and they are looking to take advantage of it.

I am not going to say the event is a fail, but the rewards (and how users seem to perceive them) is a utter fail.

Not to mention the fact that they have duplicated items for this event, and that leads to exploits that they have to now address.
39584 Brutix Serpentis SKIN (Permanent)
42177 Brutix Serpentis SKIN (Permanent)

39585 Catalyst Serpentis SKIN (Permanent)
42162 Catalyst Serpentis SKIN (Permanent)

I am sure there is more fail out there too, but I dare not go on about it - else my post will look like the OPs.

Quality vs. Quantity. There are situations where you don't want 25 dreads, or if you are going thru a wormhole chain can't bring 25 dreads.

the material build cost is 20 dreads, 20 time the mass of materials, yet the finished product is 1/20th the mass of the parts, this makes no sense at all.

The fact that this BPCs (all of them) are going to be available though LP store after the event seem to be unknown for some people. Anyway, cant imagine anyone brining titan with manufacturing requirements of roughly 1T into battle...

I miss the days that high value ore sites used to be grav sites.

Back when exploration was about exploring, rather than grinding.

I don't actually understand why exploration pilots would have many beefs with the event.

(a) the shipyard+research follows normal signature spawning rules, which is highly advantageous to _mobile_ pilots who understand how it works and where to look - errr "explore" for stacked signatures. My record thus far has been 12 in a system, followed by 9 in the next system, and I frequently find 3-4 and get to solo most or all of them (my preferred way as I have the encounter perfected for my ship and more players often doesn't make it faster or most importantly more loot rolls per hour).

(b) you have to kill slightly less than half of the NPCs to get the loot to drop, if you do that in the right order, you get another loot roll at the end for basically the same set of NPCs with 2 extra BCs (which die fast). ie if you know where the s+rs stack up, and where you don't have competition, you can essentially turn a stack of 10 s+rs into 20 loot rolls with only 10 warps (minimized overhead), and no jumps (overhead), and no further searching (overhead).

(c) its abundantly clear that the players who I would normally be competing with telescopes, phi and mul zatar, are running s+rs as well (some seem more or less exclusively), which is reducing the number of ded signatures they consume (and thus regenerate through causing it to respawn). Its certainly reducing the number of sigs I find per session, because I spend some time on the event and don't move as much.

That has lead to supply issues with the corelum c-type medium repairer, and the corelum c-type energized explosive membrane, which amongst other things completely cleared dodixie of the rep, and saw my last unit go for more than 50% more than pre event, on a badly conservative price guess (looks like the market would bear double price).

The rep showed up the stress first, because it turns out the traders in dodixie didn't have stocks. I have little doubt other modules across all races are also burning traders stocks, and you'll see resistance points in the prices melt when they are burnt. it will take a long time for the market to build up stocks to put those resistance points back.

As a pilot performing "grindsploration" its fine, because there is simply another choice available to me when I land in system, about content. and a lot more value about crossing some lowsec. I'm not personally _that_ interested in the bpc, like most people i think I'm interested in completing a midgrade set of implants for myself, and selling other implant drops.

If you tend to get double rolls per s+r, it seems like you'll also run very close to 2000 chips when you finish the event, which leaves that part of the event dealt with, and just a question of whether CCP will reconsider the pre-nerfed mats on the bpc -> if nobody builds them at the current prices...

Sure thing , but when this 10% more damage became 1800% more expensive than a Moros , then nobody cares about the damage anymore , they can as well bringing 2 super carrier which also cost 40b to battle,and deal 120% more damage than a single vehement and can tank maybe 1000% more damage.