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Justicia
Doomheim
#1 - 2016-07-09 03:42:51 UTC
What kinda loot and isk do you get from the average ded sites? Say a lower lvl one, a mid, and a higher lvl site?

Thanks
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#2 - 2016-07-09 04:28:11 UTC
That's actually not an easy question to answer.

Rated sites *always* drop something called Overseer's Personal Effects (usually called OPEs). Those come in ratings, and which one you get depends on which level site you've completed. These can be sold to NPC buy orders, guaranteeing a payout if you can get it out. However, the lower levels of these are... not that worthwhile. To give you some idea, 7th tier OPEs are worth 600,000 isk and are pretty typical 3/10 drops. 19th tier OPEs are worth 51,600,000 isk and drop from all 6/10s.

In addition, there is a *chance* at either the appropriate level of deadspace loot as follows:

1/10: frigate c-type
2/10: frigate b-type
3/10: frigate a-type
4/10: cruiser c-type
5/10: cruiser b-type
6/10: cruiser a-type
7/10: battleship c-type
8/10: battleship b-type
9/10: battleship a-type
10/10: battleship x-type

Sites can also drop BPCs for faction- and size-appropriate ships. In addition, they can drop faction modules. I have never seen them drop implants so I imagine that's the one thing off the table running rated sites.

So how many things drop?

It varies. Widely. I've seen OPE + 3 deadspace + BPC happen a few times, but far more often there's either one random deadspace item or nothing (which you'll see referred to around here as OPE only). It's not really predictable.
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2016-07-09 04:56:07 UTC
The only DED sites I frequently run are 3/10. You can expect about 100M per site from the dead space modules.

I'm my own NPC alt.
Matt Benneth
Strictly Moral Support
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#4 - 2016-07-09 07:49:05 UTC
Unrated sites have faction spawn that can drop faction loot and escalate to expedition that is usually split in 4 parts, with first 3 each having faction spawn and with last part has faction spawn that can also drop deadspace modules.

Site -------------- Last part drop
1) Hideout -- frigate c-type modules
2) Lookout -- frigate a-type modules
3) Watch -- frigate a-type modules
4) Vigil -- frigate a-type modules
5) Provisional Outpost -- cruiser c-type modules
6) Outpost -- cruiser a-type modules
7) Minor Annex -- cruiser a-type modules
8) Annex -- battleship c-type modules

There are more unrated sites in nullsec but I never ran those yet. They should all drop High-Grade implants. All of the above sites can drop Mid-Grade implants except Annex which drops High-Grade ones.

There are also unrated drone sites. Those can drop Sentient modules and Chips that can be traded for SOE ship BPCs:
1) Hunted Yard -- Astero Chip
2) Desolate Site -- Astero Chip
3) Chemical Yard -- Astero Chip in site and first part of escalation, Stratios Chip in 2nd and 3d part
4) Rogue Trial Yard -- Stratios Chip
5) Dirty Site -- Stratios Chip
6) Ruins -- Stratios Chip

There are more nullsec sites, never ran those but I belive they can all drop Nestor Chips.

Note that all the high sec combat sites can also be found in low sec, but unrated high sec sites found in lowsec will never escalate to expedition.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2016-07-09 09:32:12 UTC
Just wanted to add that Cosmic Anomalies also have a chance of spawning Commander NPC's that contain loot. Usually it's just Faction Munitions and a Pirate Dog Tag but they also sometimes drop BPC, Implant and or Faction modules.



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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2016-07-09 09:34:23 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Also if lucky the Cosmic Anomaly will escalate to a DED site.




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Andrew Indy
Cleaning Crew
#7 - 2016-07-19 07:38:40 UTC
Another thing to consider is the race you are running and the size of the mods they drop. Difference races drop different mods and often different size vary widely.

For example, Medium (4-6/10 or unrated equivalent) Gursita Sites drop medium Boosters and Invlus both of which are very pricey. 7-10/10 sites drop L/XL Boosters and damage specific hardeners both of which hare relativity cheap despite the sites being much harder.

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The only DED sites I frequently run are 3/10. You can expect about 100M per site from the dead space modules.


I'm not sure what sites you run but i would say that 100mil is near the top of the value chart for a 3/10 not the average. There are a few mods (Small A-type booster, scram, webs that go for 100mil but the chance of getting them is fairly low.)
Roci Nantes
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2016-07-19 15:52:27 UTC
Tipa Riot wrote:
The only DED sites I frequently run are 3/10. You can expect about 100M per site from the dead space modules.



I did 4 of these last night and didn't once make 100mil... 40 to 70 million was the range. These where Serpentis drug labs 3/10
Kalmr Varys
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2016-07-19 17:51:47 UTC
Roci Nantes wrote:
Tipa Riot wrote:
The only DED sites I frequently run are 3/10. You can expect about 100M per site from the dead space modules.



I did 4 of these last night and didn't once make 100mil... 40 to 70 million was the range. These where Serpentis drug labs 3/10


There's no way he's getting 100m per site. Your average per site is much lower, no matter what faction you run.

The more lucrative a site is, the more people will be scanning that area, leading to less sites to find.
Dane Ge
Ritoru Aroha
#10 - 2016-07-23 01:15:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Dane Ge
I just recently started running anoms in highsec to get the DED escalations. I run the Gurista ones right now.

Is it worth it ever to roam lowsec or nullsec and scan down cosmic signatures in a safer cloaky ship and if it's clear enough come back in my Gila to run them? Just wondering how often 3-6/10's spawn in these areas or if you get more generally from running the anoms to get escalations. With the safety factor aside just wondering how often these spawn really.

Also in which security space do 3-6/10's spawn as cosmic signatures? Not sure if 3/10 spawn in highsec ever or if it's just lowsec and nullsec that get these where you can scan them down with probes without having to get an escalation.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2016-07-23 01:33:35 UTC
Dane Ge wrote:
I just recently started running anoms in highsec to get the DED escalations. I run the Gurista ones right now.

Is it worth it ever to roam lowsec or nullsec and scan down cosmic signatures in a safer cloaky ship and if it's clear enough come back in my Gila to run them? Just wondering how often 3-6/10's spawn in these areas or if you get more generally from running the anoms to get escalations. With the safety factor aside just wondering how often these spawn really.

Also in which security space do 3-6/10's spawn as cosmic signatures? Not sure if 3/10 spawn in highsec ever or if it's just lowsec and nullsec that get these where you can scan them down with probes without having to get an escalation.
The main problem of scanning and bookmarking sites in Low sec and then coming back in a PvE ship to run them is that other players in PvP ships may have done the same thing and are waiting for PvE ships to show up.

Now if you're camped out in the system and know there's very little to no population action happening, then yeah, you can probably do it. Course make sure to set up safe spots, keep an eye on local and run D-scan.

It's been a while but it was my understanding that there's a set amount of signatures and anomalies available for each specific area. I'd like to think it's Regional but more than likely it's only Constellation wide.

High sec space will spawn 1/10 to 4/10 DED sites. Not sure but I think Low sec will spawn 1/10 to 8/10 DED sites and Null sec will spawn 1/10 to 10/10 DED sites. The same goes for the named un-rated Cosmic Signature and Anomaly sites as well.



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Dane Ge
Ritoru Aroha
#12 - 2016-07-23 02:12:34 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Dane Ge wrote:
I just recently started running anoms in highsec to get the DED escalations. I run the Gurista ones right now.

Is it worth it ever to roam lowsec or nullsec and scan down cosmic signatures in a safer cloaky ship and if it's clear enough come back in my Gila to run them? Just wondering how often 3-6/10's spawn in these areas or if you get more generally from running the anoms to get escalations. With the safety factor aside just wondering how often these spawn really.

Also in which security space do 3-6/10's spawn as cosmic signatures? Not sure if 3/10 spawn in highsec ever or if it's just lowsec and nullsec that get these where you can scan them down with probes without having to get an escalation.
The main problem of scanning and bookmarking sites in Low sec and then coming back in a PvE ship to run them is that other players in PvP ships may have done the same thing and are waiting for PvE ships to show up.

Now if you're camped out in the system and know there's very little to no population action happening, then yeah, you can probably do it. Course make sure to set up safe spots, keep an eye on local and run D-scan.

It's been a while but it was my understanding that there's a set amount of signatures and anomalies available for each specific area. I'd like to think it's Regional but more than likely it's only Constellation wide.

High sec space will spawn 1/10 to 4/10 DED sites. Not sure but I think Low sec will spawn 1/10 to 8/10 DED sites and Null sec will spawn 1/10 to 10/10 DED sites. The same goes for the named un-rated Cosmic Signature and Anomaly sites as well.



DMC


Thanks for the info.

Didn't know highsec could spawn up to 4/10's as cosmic signatures I will start scanning those down, although I bet other people will have beat me to it lol.

Yeah seem like lowsec/nullsec is more dangerous than its worth, probably only good to scan down and do sites near my Corps staging system when we happen to find them. Just not going to nullsec/lowsec specifically to hunt down these sites.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2016-07-23 02:55:17 UTC
Dane Ge wrote:


Thanks for the info.

Didn't know highsec could spawn up to 4/10's as cosmic signatures I will start scanning those down, although I bet other people will have beat me to it lol.

Yeah seem like lowsec/nullsec is more dangerous than its worth, probably only good to scan down and do sites near my Corps staging system when we happen to find them. Just not going to nullsec/lowsec specifically to hunt down these sites.

Best places for High Sec exploration are systems located way off the beaten track, far away from Mission / Trade hubs. Check system stats in Star Map for low amount of population, jumps, NPC kills, etc.

To be competitive with the massive amount of competition in High sec, need to have exploration skills maxed and use top line equipment fit on a ship ready for PvE combat. Basically allowing you to find and complete the sites asap. No need to switch out ships after scanning thus eliminating chance of others running the sites before you.

Good luck to you.



DMC

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Gustav Mannfred
Summer of Mumuit
Remember Mumuit
#14 - 2016-07-23 09:40:35 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Dane Ge wrote:
I just recently started running anoms in highsec to get the DED escalations. I run the Gurista ones right now.

Is it worth it ever to roam lowsec or nullsec and scan down cosmic signatures in a safer cloaky ship and if it's clear enough come back in my Gila to run them? Just wondering how often 3-6/10's spawn in these areas or if you get more generally from running the anoms to get escalations. With the safety factor aside just wondering how often these spawn really.

Also in which security space do 3-6/10's spawn as cosmic signatures? Not sure if 3/10 spawn in highsec ever or if it's just lowsec and nullsec that get these where you can scan them down with probes without having to get an escalation.
The main problem of scanning and bookmarking sites in Low sec and then coming back in a PvE ship to run them is that other players in PvP ships may have done the same thing and are waiting for PvE ships to show up.

Now if you're camped out in the system and know there's very little to no population action happening, then yeah, you can probably do it. Course make sure to set up safe spots, keep an eye on local and run D-scan.

It's been a while but it was my understanding that there's a set amount of signatures and anomalies available for each specific area. I'd like to think it's Regional but more than likely it's only Constellation wide.

High sec space will spawn 1/10 to 4/10 DED sites. Not sure but I think Low sec will spawn 1/10 to 8/10 DED sites and Null sec will spawn 1/10 to 10/10 DED sites. The same goes for the named un-rated Cosmic Signature and Anomaly sites as well.



DMC


Hi sec spawns DED 1-4 and DED 5 as escalation from Dens, I'm not sure if low and nullsec anomalys can escalate into hisec, but nullsec anomalys often escalate into lowsec when they were ran close enought to empire
Low sec spawns DED 1-6 and DED 7-10 as escalation from Ports,Hubs,Havens(nullsec sec) and Sanctums(nullsec)
Nullsec spawns DED 6-10, but I once scanned down a sansha 3/10 in Providence last week

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#15 - 2016-07-24 01:44:43 UTC