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Solo Battleship?

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Kei Nagasai
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2016-07-07 19:31:58 UTC
I know the cancer that is cruisers and below rule New Eden at the moment, but I would like to jump into a battleship and go for a roam when I have a spare hour or 3.
I expect to lose ships, a lot of them, while im learning what to do and getting over the intial adrenaline rush.
Is it viable anymore, what with T3D's and cruiser spam?
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#2 - 2016-07-07 19:36:39 UTC
The Armageddon and Dominix are kinda viable for such a thing. Dem drones and utility!

I also hear some crazy things can happen with a Raven fitted with Rapid Heavy Missiles.

And of course, if money really isn't an issue, you may want to look at Marauders. I have seen them pull off things that only a madman would consider.
Kei Nagasai
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2016-07-07 19:44:30 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
The Armageddon and Dominix are kinda viable for such a thing. Dem drones and utility!

I also hear some crazy things can happen with a Raven fitted with Rapid Heavy Missiles.

And of course, if money really isn't an issue, you may want to look at Marauders. I have seen them pull off things that only a madman would consider.


Raven is what I was thinking of, if im honest, T2 rapid heavies make mince of things, only problem is cap stability.
I was looking at the marauders, Golem specifically ( love my caldari), playing about with EFT and things, you can get some crazy numbers, but thats with torps though, dont you need like 2 target painters to get the most out of them? Would that gimp the fit?
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#4 - 2016-07-07 19:54:26 UTC
Roaming solo in any battleship is ill advised.

If you were roaming with a Rapier, it would be more plausible, but that works better with a Widow.

Consider how much ISK you are putting at risk for every engagement. The higher the number, the more sense it makes to have additional friendly ships in the fleet to deal with hostile ships & ship types you cannot handle.
Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
#5 - 2016-07-07 20:00:15 UTC
solo dreads or go home
FT Cold
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2016-07-07 20:10:59 UTC
Most t1 battleships are perfectly able to kill anything smaller than them, especially if they're using dual webs, grappler+web, RHML, or have two or more heavy neuts. Being able to beat cruisers and smaller isn't really the problem though, it's simply how much ground you can cover, and the response of the locals when they see a hostile battleship in their space.
aldhura
Blackjack and Exotic Dancers
Top Tier
#7 - 2016-07-07 20:56:18 UTC
There are a ton of newish you tube vids of people doing this, just speak to uncle google :) There are a few in game chats where people will advice also, zaqq's pub and others.
Blade Darth
Room for Improvement
Good Sax
#8 - 2016-07-07 21:09:54 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
you may want to look at Marauders
Marauder can murder a disorganized gang, but so can a typhoon while being 15% as expensive. Command destroyer can jump you even in bastion and bastion makes you immune to scrams so no "special snowflake" in enemy fleet gonna scram you by accident before jump occurs.
Also carriers.
Kalmr Varys
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2016-07-07 21:23:26 UTC
You basically have to have at least dual web or grappler + web. Only take out drone boats or rapid heavies. Fit an MJD. Fit a long point, not a scram, you want their MWD left on.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#10 - 2016-07-07 22:40:34 UTC
Blade Darth wrote:
Marauder can murder a disorganized gang, but so can a typhoon while being 15% as expensive. Command destroyer can jump you even in bastion and bastion makes you immune to scrams so no "special snowflake" in enemy fleet gonna scram you by accident before jump occurs.
Also carriers.

You might want to double check the scram bit. Pretty sure Bastion no longer stops points & scrams since the change to Ewar resistances overall. Also pretty sure it doesn't stop webs.
Neither really matters while in Bastion but it does change things right when you exit Bastion (Assuming of course that CCP haven't yet again changed that tiny aspect)
Keebler Wizard
Skew The Suits
#11 - 2016-07-08 01:27:47 UTC
Iv enjoyed soloing around with domis. Tank can get pretty heavy, and you get tons of utility, drones can make most of your DPS leaving space for neuts and even blasters in the highs. If I had motivation to fly outside of my home system, I'd be welping dominix's daily.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#12 - 2016-07-08 03:45:33 UTC
Rapid raven is indeed a fun ship.
Valkin Mordirc
#13 - 2016-07-08 04:56:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Valkin Mordirc
You'll generally lose more then what you kill, but honestly if you a solo player and concerned about Kill Eff, and Isk ratio's you are doing the wrong thing. I don't know if you mean true solo, or just you and a couple alts. I would always advise links, when it comes to battleships though.

Domi's and Geddons are great ships to fly. Domi's can be fitted with a full rack of medium hybrid and triple repped, it'll shred smaller gangs pretty effectively. The Geddon has really niche RHML fit that is nano'ed that'll work wonders on fleets not expecting it, but needs to be linked and drugged and probable snaked as well.


RHML ravens that are either Structure tanked or dual X-L Anci are fun. Kitting Megathrons will sorta work if the enemy isn't expecting it. Same goes for the it's cousin the Vindicator.

The Navy Phoon is also another great RHML plateform, The Hyperion is another brawler, You just need to look at Hyde's solo work to see how the rattlesnake is. Nightmare is really good as a dual propped or triple propped.


The only really thing that will **** on your cake are HIC's and capitals honestly.
#DeleteTheWeak
Noah Reese
#14 - 2016-07-08 07:06:14 UTC
The above is a really good post: if you want to solo you're not really looking at K:D ratios, you're looking at entertainment:time ratios. Yes you're going to lose that battleship but with a bit of luck you'll take down a few with you, also it's the "yeah I'm flying a BS, I know it's not super optimal but I find it fun, deal with it". This has to do with EVE being a sandbox and as long as you're having fun you're playing this sandbox rightâ„¢. Doesn't mean I would advocate doing solo pvp in a BS, especially not if a newbie would ask about (not saying you are) but if someone has given it all some thought and then decided that it would be hilarious to do so, go for it.

The obvious ships have already been mentioned but I would want to add that this whole thing about Marauders being amazing is mostly about having gang links as support and dealing with people who don't know what marauders are (which happened a lot back when they were new but these days less so, obviously).
Zirashi
Cyclical Destruction
#15 - 2016-07-08 08:46:37 UTC
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#16 - 2016-07-08 09:29:15 UTC
Rattler with rapid heavies, nano bhaalgorn, 3 x xlasb vargur, ive had more fun and found better fights in a regengu tbh, people think its a pve ship so quite happily engage without calling a million battleship friends.

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Kei Nagasai
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2016-07-08 12:16:52 UTC
So, after EFT warrioring it, this is what I came up with, what do you think?

[Raven, RHML]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Co-Processor II
Damage Control II

X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800
J5 Enduring Warp Disruptor
X5 Enduring Stasis Webifier
X5 Enduring Stasis Webifier
Large Micro Jump Drive
Peripheral Compact Target Painter

Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Large Plasma Smartbomb I

Large Processor Overclocking Unit I
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I

Warrior II x5
Valkyrie II x5
Blade Darth
Room for Improvement
Good Sax
#18 - 2016-07-08 15:56:12 UTC
Invul or prop mod instead TP, faction heavies
t2 em rig (cheap)
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#19 - 2016-07-08 17:37:35 UTC
Kei Nagasai wrote:
So, after EFT warrioring it, this is what I came up with, what do you think?

[Raven, RHML]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Co-Processor II
Damage Control II

X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800
J5 Enduring Warp Disruptor
X5 Enduring Stasis Webifier
X5 Enduring Stasis Webifier
Large Micro Jump Drive
Peripheral Compact Target Painter

Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Rapid Heavy Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Heavy Missile
Large Plasma Smartbomb I

Large Processor Overclocking Unit I
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I

Warrior II x5
Valkyrie II x5






My Raven was equipped with the following:

HIGH
06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I
01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1
01 x SALVAGER I

MEDIUM
04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS
01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM
01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER

LOW
01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL
01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I
01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I
02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I

DRONES
02 x WARRIOR I DRONES
03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES

UPGRADES
01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I
01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#20 - 2016-07-08 18:29:41 UTC
Bumbles raven is defo max level pvep compatible

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

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