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What will happen if bots are banned, we already know.
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Rover Tull
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-01-15 20:01:54 UTC
My buddy does not play eve, but he trades on the grand exchange in runescape. A while ago, jagex (creators of runescape) unleashed a "bot nuke" that decimated the bot population on all servers. Prices of heavily boted items skyrocketed 200% and are still rising. I logged in for the first time in two years, and had a good stockpile of iron ore, which was heavily botted, and I realized that if people in eve started stockpiling ice, high-sec ores, and minerals then if and when ccp bans all the bots those items will give you returns unheard of. I don't think that ccp will ever do that, but if it did happen runescape kinda predicted what will happen.
Brock Nelson
#2 - 2012-01-15 20:05:58 UTC
So many things wrong...

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KrakizBad
Section 8.
#3 - 2012-01-15 20:07:51 UTC
WTB 'bot nuke' tho. Sad
Rover Tull
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-01-15 20:28:18 UTC
I don't really know what it was, but almost all the bots got banned after it happened
Brock Nelson
#5 - 2012-01-15 20:31:42 UTC
Runescape != EVE.

CCP already did this and bots kept coming

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Rover Tull
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-01-15 20:36:26 UTC
I don't remember hearing anything about bots being banned in significant numbers
Selene D'Celeste
The D'Celeste Trading Company
ISK Six
#7 - 2012-01-15 20:37:31 UTC
Brock Nelson wrote:
Runescape != EVE.

CCP already did this and bots kept coming


If you remember though, all of the mission macro'd goods went up in price as much as 2-3x their original value for the two weeks when the bots were banned from unholy rage. Implants went batshit causing a lot of tears, iirc.

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Brock Nelson
#8 - 2012-01-15 20:44:45 UTC
Selene D'Celeste wrote:
Brock Nelson wrote:
Runescape != EVE.

CCP already did this and bots kept coming


If you remember though, all of the mission macro'd goods went up in price as much as 2-3x their original value for the two weeks when the bots were banned from unholy rage. Implants went batshit causing a lot of tears, iirc.


Those were good times

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Mardero
#9 - 2012-01-15 22:11:37 UTC
Bots are banned > prices skyrocket > some players turn to mining because it has now become more profitable > new equilibrium for prices that is somewhere inbetween the prices before bot-removal and the peak prices thereafter.
Tekota
The Freighter Factory
#10 - 2012-01-16 07:33:06 UTC
Rover Tull wrote:
I don't remember hearing anything about bots being banned in significant numbers


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malaire
#11 - 2012-01-16 07:36:21 UTC
Rover Tull wrote:
I don't remember hearing anything about bots being banned in significant numbers

unholy rage

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Immemorial Coalescence Administration
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#12 - 2012-01-16 09:07:19 UTC
Rover Tull wrote:
My buddy does not play eve, but he trades on the grand exchange in runescape. A while ago, jagex (creators of runescape) unleashed a "bot nuke" that decimated the bot population on all servers. Prices of heavily boted items skyrocketed 200% and are still rising. I logged in for the first time in two years, and had a good stockpile of iron ore, which was heavily botted, and I realized that if people in eve started stockpiling ice, high-sec ores, and minerals then if and when ccp bans all the bots those items will give you returns unheard of. I don't think that ccp will ever do that, but if it did happen runescape kinda predicted what will happen.


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Beckie DeLey
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-01-16 10:39:28 UTC
Prices going up is a good thing. Ban away.

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Dasola
New Edens Freeports
#14 - 2012-01-16 10:46:05 UTC
Sounds like basic supply vs. demand to me. :P Lets ban al those pesky bots... Twisted

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DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
#15 - 2012-01-17 02:51:28 UTC
Whilst CCP are making subscription money off bots, they're not going anywhere.

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Brock Nelson
#16 - 2012-01-17 03:38:24 UTC
DelBoy Trades wrote:
Whilst CCP are making subscription money off bots, they're not going anywhere.


This is probably the main reason why we're not seeing such a widespread banning of bots compared to other MMO.

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Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#17 - 2012-01-17 08:36:26 UTC
DelBoy Trades wrote:
Whilst CCP are making subscription money off bots, they're not going anywhere.


There's a double meaning in that sentence.
DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
#18 - 2012-01-17 11:41:15 UTC
Kara Books wrote:
DelBoy Trades wrote:
Whilst CCP are making subscription money off bots, they're not going anywhere.


There's a double meaning in that sentence.


All hail the king of double entendre.

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Kagan Storm
Doomheim
#19 - 2012-01-17 12:44:19 UTC
DelBoy Trades wrote:
Whilst CCP are making subscription money off bots, they're not going anywhere.



I think you are wrong here.

If you use subscription to bot... sooner or later youll get banned.... and everithing tied to that credit card bla bla bla....


So if you ask me i think bots are actualy plexed.... cause only a ****** would give credit card info for an illegal action.... and no matter what anybodey say for or against boting is a bad thing.



Problem is the current eve equilibrium is with bots.....

CCP can eider ban all and drown in tears and pray they ride out the storm or they can just ignore the problem.

I have personaly shifted my incom form the stuff that can be boted cause i dont wanna deal with that aspect of the market.



But what everybody fails to realize is that its a double edge sword for ccp.

Example:
You have 100 people.... 50 of them mine 25 trade 15 run missions (runing l2s is not missionruning) 10 pvp. If you replace 40 miners with bots.... the other 40 people have to shift somewhere. And if they go trading hell brakes loose cause yes trade good for economy ug... but people in eve dont trade by marketmanipulating... Even in jita... buy orders are sparse.... and they ceap things running.... not the sell orders.

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DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
#20 - 2012-01-17 14:25:52 UTC
Kagan Storm wrote:
DelBoy Trades wrote:
Whilst CCP are making subscription money off bots, they're not going anywhere.


I think you are wrong here.

If you use subscription to bot... sooner or later youll get banned.... and everithing tied to that credit card bla bla bla....

So if you ask me i think bots are actualy plexed.... cause only a ****** would give credit card info for an illegal action.... and no matter what anybodey say for or against boting is a bad thing.


By paying with PLEX they are still paying a subscription...Some one had to buy that PLEX for REAL money. Point stands.

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