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Optimal missile system for ratting question.

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Nicola Romanoff
Phoenix Connection
#1 - 2016-06-29 12:40:42 UTC
Question I currently do Level IV missions in high sec and I use a rattlesnake with cruise missiles, I tend to use standard cruise missiles rather than faction due to the costs on the CN cruise missiles, fury cruise have too high a explosion radius and ive not explored precision cruise but understand they have a range penalty. However, most of the rats on missions are cruiser sized or below so using cruise missiles on these tends to be a waste, therefore what I currently do is generally use cruise on the BS sized rats and either heavy or sentries on the cruiser and below because of the drone damage bonus on the rattlesnake hull.

However I was wonder if it would be better all round in terms of damage by missile if I were the use Fury heavy Missiles instead of Standard Cruise. From the information I have read I think it would be more beneficial on the cruisers, but less so on the BS, of course another downside is that fury heavies missiles have much less range than a standard cruise.

The reason for asking the question was to find a way to speed up the process of going through a site.
The Bigpuns
United Standings Improvement Agency
#2 - 2016-06-29 12:59:27 UTC
That's the problem every battleship has - trade off dps for application.

Golem has exceptional application, but is slower and has less overall dps.
Barghest is another option, and due to not using drones as much it can dedicate more slots to missile application, but again, lower overall dps.

Tfi, rni and sni are all fairly standard alternatives, but don't equal better.

Basically, either precision cruise missiles, faction heavy missiles, or get used to using drones to clear out small rats. No other ship is strictly an upgrade to the rs.

Show us yer fits..
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2016-06-29 13:15:58 UTC
Your main dps is your drone(s) anyway. Cruise missiles are good because of their exceptional range and quite a lot of mission rats end up spawning pretty far away

use regular missiles for battleships/battlcruisers and precision for anything smaller and let your drones do the heavy lifting
Nicola Romanoff
Phoenix Connection
#4 - 2016-06-29 13:28:09 UTC
Thanks for the replies, I figured what you said was the best thing, I just wanted to confirm, Bigpuns, Ill post the fit here tonight when I get home from work.
Sir SmashAlot
The League of Extraordinary Opportunists
Intergalactic Conservation Movement
#5 - 2016-07-03 03:51:11 UTC
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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#6 - 2016-07-03 09:22:00 UTC
I've heard folks swear by Rattlers with Rapid Heavies in place of Cruise. Might try that if you're running into a lot of medium and small sized targets. Getting use to the long reload timer and maybe range is likely the hardest part from what I gather, especially given that the Rattler doesn't have the missile range buff it use to have.

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Nicola Romanoff
Phoenix Connection
#7 - 2016-07-03 10:52:56 UTC
sod the rapid heavies reload time, Cruise missile have plenty of range, lock range is shorter than the missiles range whch is sometimes a pain, the implants seem to be helping though I think, drones on frigs from distance and cruise from cruiser upwards.
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2016-07-03 12:22:44 UTC
Missile Guidance Enhancer
Missile Guidance Computer + Precision Script
Target Painter
GP-80x


All work to increase the damage application of missiles.

Drop a fourth BCU for 1 MGE
Decide how much tank you can really do without and add 1 or both of the others in your mid-slots.
Train cybernetics for the 5 or 6
Jazperz
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#9 - 2016-07-04 19:57:01 UTC
Missile Guidance Enhancer
Missile Guidance Computer + Precision Script
Target Painter
GP-80x


All work to increase the damage application of missiles.

Drop a fourth BCU for 1 MGE
Decide how much tank you can really do without and add 1 or both of the others in your mid-slots.
Train cybernetics for the 5 or 6


As above and use Marauder fitted with 4 Tractor beams, a little less DPS but more than made up by looting as you go, reduces overall mission time for more ISK per hour.