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Citadels Should Only Be Anchored At Planets or Moons

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Rune Star
Trauma Ward
#1 - 2016-06-26 23:26:32 UTC
I'd accept the sun too, but really at star gates? It just makes the game feel cheap. Most carebears are setting up bubble hellcamps off gates now with their citadel. So when you jump in you've got to deal with the citadel and bubble rage cage and can't even go snipe a bear in an anom. :(
Neadayan Drakhon
Heuristic Industrial And Development
AddictClan
#2 - 2016-06-26 23:37:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Neadayan Drakhon
Working as intended, move along.

Edit - semi serious response:
You're complaining that people are actually defending their space?
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#3 - 2016-06-26 23:38:00 UTC
♫ Unintended Consequences. ♬

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Rune Star
Trauma Ward
#4 - 2016-06-26 23:41:29 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
♫ Unintended Consequences. ♬



Hopefully there's an iterative pass on Citadels after a few patches. Although it's pretty low prio, I bet. It just feels kinda like space is going to get trashed up with citadels on gate.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#5 - 2016-06-26 23:42:44 UTC
CCP failed to allow for 1000km drag bubbles in their thought process. Which results in an overly silly situation now and I'm quite sure they will correct it one way or another.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#6 - 2016-06-27 01:03:26 UTC
Rune Star wrote:
I'd accept the sun too, but really at star gates? It just makes the game feel cheap. Most carebears are setting up bubble hellcamps off gates now with their citadel. So when you jump in you've got to deal with the citadel and bubble rage cage and can't even go snipe a bear in an anom. :(


If they're only carebears, reinforce the citadel and make it cost them 2B a pop every time they try this.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

nezroy
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2016-06-27 04:52:13 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
CCP failed to allow for 1000km drag bubbles in their thought process. Which results in an overly silly situation now and I'm quite sure they will correct it one way or another.


They actually went out of their way to RESTRICT them to ONLY 1000km drag bubbles, so... I mean, you can disagree with their choice but you can't actually argue they didn't think about it.
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2016-06-27 05:36:19 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Rune Star wrote:
I'd accept the sun too, but really at star gates? It just makes the game feel cheap. Most carebears are setting up bubble hellcamps off gates now with their citadel. So when you jump in you've got to deal with the citadel and bubble rage cage and can't even go snipe a bear in an anom. :(


If they're only carebears, reinforce the citadel and make it cost them 2B a pop every time they try this.


#Effort
#BringingActualShipsOnTheField
#NoFriends
#ActuallyRiskingSomething
#SomeoneElseCanDoItAndWhiningIsBetter

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#9 - 2016-06-27 05:42:06 UTC
Yang Aurilen wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Rune Star wrote:
I'd accept the sun too, but really at star gates? It just makes the game feel cheap. Most carebears are setting up bubble hellcamps off gates now with their citadel. So when you jump in you've got to deal with the citadel and bubble rage cage and can't even go snipe a bear in an anom. :(


If they're only carebears, reinforce the citadel and make it cost them 2B a pop every time they try this.


#Effort
#BringingActualShipsOnTheField
#NoFriends
#ActuallyRiskingSomething
#SomeoneElseCanDoItAndWhiningIsBetter

#amidoingitright?
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#10 - 2016-06-27 08:58:46 UTC
They are putting a Citadel at risk, also it is being used as a force multiplier to assist in area defence, perfectly good use of a citadel IMO. If you don't like it go and blow it up, they are "carebears" after all...

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Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#11 - 2016-06-27 09:19:07 UTC
There should be more ways to protect your space and rmake it your own, not less.

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Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2016-06-27 11:06:45 UTC
Working as Designed. Please submit a change request, as this is not a defect.

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno

Mark Hadden
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2016-06-27 11:25:49 UTC
yes, citadels on gate grids shouldn't be possible since they allow safe gatecamps from 1000 km away.
Lets see how long CCP is going to take to fix this.
Brokk Witgenstein
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2016-06-27 12:10:42 UTC
You gotta love that opening salvo of a whinethread about getting rekt by bears.

Shall we introduce a brand new Plankton class for Bear++ bottom feeders?
Chewytowel Haklar
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2016-06-27 14:54:39 UTC
Yeah this makes me sad too. I demand you all take down all these bubbles and citadels on gates cause it makes my job much much harder!

Also, please don't shoot me and destroy my ship unless you honor my 1 vs 1 honorable combat request. Thanks and have a pleasant day.

OH, lastly do NOT drop super's on people that is just rude!!!!
Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#16 - 2016-06-27 15:22:04 UTC
Citadels have to be 1k off gates. So you're never gonna be blapped by one when you jump though a gate.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.

Pandora Carrollon
Provi Rapid Response
#17 - 2016-06-27 16:58:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Pandora Carrollon
Ugh, bubbles are only allowed in NullSec, right?

If so, then Carebears in Null? That's a new one on me. Sounds like a bad cartoon title. Also, if null, then can't you cyno the system and drop a Cap Fleet in there to remove the Citadel?

I don't think CCP would allow something like this to exist if there weren't ways around it. Also, if you dropped a Fleet through the gate, wouldn't the Citadel be dragging in it's own doom?

I think I'm missing a lot of information here to understand what the issue really is. Then again, I'm a HiSec Carebear (Though I usually do have on my teeth and claws) and we are dumber than your average bear, maybe really dumb compared to our NullSec cousins...
Brokk Witgenstein
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2016-06-27 17:05:48 UTC
Think OP's complaining about not having a scout / tactical bookmarks around gates, then getting his fleet dragged into bubbles at the citadel where it dies horribly.

Nullsec things, yup. Citadels have access to deadly weapon systems (point defense, mini-doomsdays) you won't find (I believe?) in highsec.

Still... how about not flying into the bubble maybe? Is this different than any other gaycamp?
Roci Nantes
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2016-06-27 17:09:01 UTC
I agree with the OP's statement but not for the same reason. Maybe I'm the only one but I hate seeing all the citadels in the system.(I mean physically seeing them) I can't throw a rock and not have to look at this terrible looking things. Some systems with a dozen or more is just gross. At least with the pos you had to go to a moon to see them. It feels like I'm in WALL-E flying through everyone's space junk.

The function and use of the citadels is fine by me. I just don't like seeing them.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#20 - 2016-06-27 17:16:11 UTC
Roci Nantes wrote:
I agree with the OP's statement but not for the same reason. Maybe I'm the only one but I hate seeing all the citadels in the system.(I mean physically seeing them) I can't throw a rock and not have to look at this terrible looking things. Some systems with a dozen or more is just gross. At least with the pos you had to go to a moon to see them. It feels like I'm in WALL-E flying through everyone's space junk.

The function and use of the citadels is fine by me. I just don't like seeing them.

So go slap them about, bring like two guardians and a couple of vindis and youre golden.
Unless they have a defense fleet but then you get a fight!
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