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Inner Circle, Raish cast suspicion upon Upwell's Serpentis raids
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Slayer Liberator
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#21 - 2016-06-26 07:50:07 UTC
Ayallah wrote:
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“When we reveal these designs to the cluster it will force them to listen. They’ll have no choice. It’s only then that the Federation will realize that their overconfidence and carelessness with the Molyneux was the catalyst that created the monster they now have to face.

As for Arteu, rejoining the fray was the biggest mistake of his life, and I’ll be sure the old fraud knows it by the time I’m done with him and his new friends.”

Salvador Sarpati – Low Orbit Capital Shipyard, Serpentis Prime – 118/06/01

Upwell are doing what is best for everyone by withholding what they have found I am sure. You are all right in thinking it is simple greed that motivates CONCORD.

The main issue is that CONCORD asked for the items without compensation
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#22 - 2016-06-26 13:54:09 UTC
Ayallah wrote:
Quote:
“When we reveal these designs to the cluster it will force them to listen. They’ll have no choice. It’s only then that the Federation will realize that their overconfidence and carelessness with the Molyneux was the catalyst that created the monster they now have to face.

As for Arteu, rejoining the fray was the biggest mistake of his life, and I’ll be sure the old fraud knows it by the time I’m done with him and his new friends.”

Salvador Sarpati – Low Orbit Capital Shipyard, Serpentis Prime – 118/06/01

Upwell are doing what is best for everyone by withholding what they have found I am sure. You are all right in thinking it is simple greed that motivates CONCORD.


So one mans grudge justifies letting them act like tyrants?

But if we're talking about one man, lets focus a bit more on this Raish character, ever since the SOCT got into the Inner Circle they've had this obsessive interest in Upwell and everything its been doing. Yes its a major industrial consortium but since when has the SOCT ever given a toss about that before?

I think we should be more worried about that agenda than one man who has a taste for the dramatic and really hates the Gallente.

Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin

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Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2016-06-28 00:30:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Ayallah
Darek Castigatus wrote:
I think we should be more worried about that agenda than one man who has a taste for the dramatic and really hates the Gallente.

That man is the leader of the Serpentis. It is his word that has driven all of this. His word is the only one that matters.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.
Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2016-06-28 00:35:27 UTC
https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/pressure-mounts-on-upwell-to-hand-over-serpentis-data-and-hardware/
The Federation and Republic add their weight to Matshi's words.

"We will not stand by and watch a for-profit consortium of corporations toy with the safety of the Gallente people by holding back intelligence on enemy capability that could be vital to bolstering the security of Federal borders against potential attack.”
-Director Blaque of the FIO

"A privately owned, for profit consortium should not be in a position where it is permitted to hold back intelligence that poses a risk to the security of any sovereign state in the cluster.”
-Girn Egnai, regional Director of Operations for the RSS in Metropolis.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.
Ayallah
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2016-06-28 00:42:01 UTC
https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/concord-and-upwell-agree-technology-sharing-deal-with-scope-network-to-act-as-broker/
Upwell capitulates after intervention by Lous Chavol, founder of the Scope and controlling share owner.

In case you have not been paying attention, Elder Mentor Matshi Raish has just used CONCORD's power. Empyreans should be wary of this man and what he can do, It seems he is not content to simply let CONCORD trickle away.

Upwell is not a small fish and this is a larger ripple than it seems against the independent of New Eden.

Goddess of the IGS

As strength goes.
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#26 - 2016-06-28 04:44:53 UTC
Ayallah wrote:
https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/concord-and-upwell-agree-technology-sharing-deal-with-scope-network-to-act-as-broker/
Upwell capitulates after intervention by Lous Chavol, founder of the Scope and controlling share owner.

In case you have not been paying attention, Elder Mentor Matshi Raish has just used CONCORD's power. Empyreans should be wary of this man and what he can do, It seems he is not content to simply let CONCORD trickle away.

Upwell is not a small fish and this is a larger ripple than it seems against the independent of New Eden.


Proving my point perfectly, Raish is someone we need to be looking into much more closely. I am willing to assist in any way i can but my presence in high security space tends to make the authorities a bit excitable, not sure exactly how much I'll be able to do.

Lest people forget this was also the man whose vessel was destroyed for scanning Jamyls titan mere days before it was destroyed by the drifters.

Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin

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The Golden Serpent
A Drunken Squirrels' Conspiracy for Revenge
#27 - 2016-07-04 11:42:24 UTC  |  Edited by: The Golden Serpent
Well he is right to be suspicious, it's basically all government sanctioned theft. Nobody has any right to the fruits of the labors of the Serpentis employees. The S corporation was right to split from the disgusting Gallente government, my family was never prevented from researching or producing anything useful by our government it just goes to show you how shallow and nonexistent Gallente freedom is. At this point it's just one underdog corporation fighting against a much larger and more powerful tyranny and its brute hound the Upwell Consortium. It boggles my mind how any so-called freedom loving Gallente cannot see how tyrannical and disgusting the actions of their government are. But they never saw it with the treatment of the Caldari either. The Amarr will never trust blatant thieves like the Upwell Consortium, clearly they have no morals and hide their greed and lust for power under a thin veil of self-righteousness. Against what? Boosters, and anti-depressants?!!! The Gallente government may claim that because they are stupid and tyrannical, but the Upwell Consortium is in it for power, money and for the research their technicians are too dull and stupid to be able to come up with themselves.

Right is right and wrong is wrong and theft is a much worse crime than chemical research which could help save lives or promote mankind's technology.

I said it before a thousand times now Scope is evil and no God fearing person would listen to them their motives are clear.

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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#28 - 2016-07-04 21:21:27 UTC
The Golden Serpent wrote:
Well he is right to be suspicious, it's basically all government sanctioned theft. Nobody has any right to the fruits of the labors of the Serpentis employees. The S corporation was right to split from the disgusting Gallente government, my family was never prevented from researching or producing anything useful by our government it just goes to show you how shallow and nonexistent Gallente freedom is. At this point it's just one underdog corporation fighting against a much larger and more powerful tyranny and its brute hound the Upwell Consortium. It boggles my mind how any so-called freedom loving Gallente cannot see how tyrannical and disgusting the actions of their government are. But they never saw it with the treatment of the Caldari either. The Amarr will never trust blatant thieves like the Upwell Consortium, clearly they have no morals and hide their greed and lust for power under a thin veil of self-righteousness. Against what? Boosters, and anti-depressants?!!! The Gallente government may claim that because they are stupid and tyrannical, but the Upwell Consortium is in it for power, money and for the research their technicians are too dull and stupid to be able to come up with themselves.

Right is right and wrong is wrong and theft is a much worse crime than chemical research which could help save lives or promote mankind's technology.

I said it before a thousand times now Scope is evil and no God fearing person would listen to them their motives are clear.


Riiiight.

First off take some of that booster isk and inject a skillbook on how to write a damn paragraph. Secondly realise that pretty much everyone here doesnt give two ***** about your merry band of drug peddling weirdos, we're more concerned with the fact the empires appear to be becoming more hardline in dealing with those who operate outside their influence and are not afraid to use CONCORD to do their bidding.

Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin

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