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Tempest fleet issue bonuses?
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Shade Alidiana
PROSPERO Corporation
#1 - 2016-06-20 14:17:56 UTC
Back when you CCP rebalanced battleships a couple years ago, both tempests had similar bonuses and you added some rof to t1 and left he fleet issue as is, saying "we'll look at how t1 performs". I'm still waiting. Is this one gonna get 7.5% rof or what? You've head enough time to consider it, and I love he ship anyway
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#2 - 2016-06-20 14:50:28 UTC
There is more things very broken right now. On top of the list are minmatar ships again and some other "imbalances".

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Shade Alidiana
PROSPERO Corporation
#3 - 2016-06-20 19:51:19 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
There is more things very broken right now. On top of the list are minmatar ships again and some other "imbalances".

I have bad feelings about calling things broken. It usually ends up breaking even more stuff
Sal Askiras
Pie Family Rock Farming INC
#4 - 2016-06-20 20:43:45 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
There is more things very broken right now. On top of the list are minmatar ships again and some other "imbalances".

I always love these arguments. "No! CCP can't fix YOUR pet-peeve until they fix MY pet-peeve!!!"
Lugh Crow-Slave
#5 - 2016-06-21 01:10:58 UTC
Sal Askiras wrote:
elitatwo wrote:
There is more things very broken right now. On top of the list are minmatar ships again and some other "imbalances".

I always love these arguments. "No! CCP can't fix YOUR pet-peeve until they fix MY pet-peeve!!!"


It's more

They can't fix your pet peeve until they fix crap that is truly broken.


This makes a single ship slightly weaker as opposed to say the current impact carriers have on the entire game

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Shade Alidiana
PROSPERO Corporation
#6 - 2016-06-22 18:41:47 UTC
It actually turned out the thing I mentioned happened just a year ago, and the post I remembered is this one. My bad here, I was quite sure it happened earlier, but am still waiting for the outcome
Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2016-06-22 18:58:00 UTC
Do want: 10% tracking bonus. Extra deeps be damned.
Shade Alidiana
PROSPERO Corporation
#8 - 2016-06-22 19:17:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Shade Alidiana
Rowells wrote:
Do want: 10% tracking bonus. Extra deeps be damned.

to each their own, I'm happy with tracking. 1 rig 1 TE and a battery of 1400s, no TC - lots of fun dancing with AB and manual steering
P. S. and if I had a tempest with tracking of tach apocalypse... Meh, I'd probably abandoned the ship as no longer interesting and unique. Eve already has too many too easy to use ships
Cade Windstalker
#9 - 2016-06-22 19:29:42 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Sal Askiras wrote:
elitatwo wrote:
There is more things very broken right now. On top of the list are minmatar ships again and some other "imbalances".

I always love these arguments. "No! CCP can't fix YOUR pet-peeve until they fix MY pet-peeve!!!"


It's more

They can't fix your pet peeve until they fix crap that is truly broken.


This makes a single ship slightly weaker as opposed to say the current impact carriers have on the entire game


CCP is not a single-threaded entity, and "there are other things broken too!" does not invalidate someone else's concern. He's correct that CCP did say that the Fleet Issue would get a second look, and this should be a pretty simple matter (at least initially) of "Is the Tempest a problem?" If no then they can consider just giving the Fleet Issue the increased bonus.

Overall that's a pretty small problem and should absolutely be something that can get tossed in the mincing machine of balance along with everything else.
Blade Darth
Room for Improvement
Good Sax
#10 - 2016-06-23 01:17:25 UTC
Would welcome some kind of usable bonus, tracking/ explosion radius, additional rust per hour, anything, even small. Atm feels like half of the ship goes to waste. 1/3 autos, 1/3 missile 1/3 drone boat.

But yea, there is stuff in bigger need of dev time, so let's wait till 2030 for next battleship rebalance.

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Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#11 - 2016-06-23 18:49:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Mina Sebiestar
Cade Windstalker wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Sal Askiras wrote:
elitatwo wrote:
There is more things very broken right now. On top of the list are minmatar ships again and some other "imbalances".

I always love these arguments. "No! CCP can't fix YOUR pet-peeve until they fix MY pet-peeve!!!"


It's more

They can't fix your pet peeve until they fix crap that is truly broken.


This makes a single ship slightly weaker as opposed to say the current impact carriers have on the entire game


CCP is not a single-threaded entity, and "there are other things broken too!" does not invalidate someone else's concern. He's correct that CCP did say that the Fleet Issue would get a second look, and this should be a pretty simple matter (at least initially) of "Is the Tempest a problem?" If no then they can consider just giving the Fleet Issue the increased bonus.

Overall that's a pretty small problem and should absolutely be something that can get tossed in the mincing machine of balance along with everything else.


This really and it is needed boost to uplift ship from mediocrity ship was worst option for most usage(pve or pvp) in between t1 pest both phoons and maelstrom CCP giving t1 pest boost made thing for fleet pest even worse.

One knows which is better navy apoc or apoc mega or navy version it is clear cut for caldary too but when it comes to pest faction one will remain parked in 99% of scenarios in favor of t1 pest and problem dont stop there it is effectively last choice battleship on minmatar side.

I think after decade of it being hangar dust collector CCP needs to make it so it holds it fleet heritage in right light like rest of races do.

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James Zimmer
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2016-06-25 23:12:00 UTC
The Tempest is in a great place right now, and has made the Tempest Fleet Issue obsolete. A tracking bonus on the fleet issue would be more interesting than just matching the Tempest bonus, but anything to get it at least semi-competitive again would be welcome.