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buff the stabber?
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Boru Pat Dragoon
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2016-06-20 02:14:37 UTC
Compared to the other attack cruisers it is missing a slot. It is probably the weakest t1 cruiser atm. What do to reckon?
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2016-06-20 03:29:22 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Since I'm Minmatar I say 'Hell Yeah, buff the Stabber.'

Also us Minmatar put as many guns as we can on our ships. That's why we use Duct Tape.

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2016-06-20 03:46:03 UTC
What do you mean missing a slot?
Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#4 - 2016-06-20 04:55:08 UTC
Boru Pat Dragoon wrote:
Compared to the other attack cruisers it is missing a slot. It is probably the weakest t1 cruiser atm. What do to reckon?

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Galaxxis
The Regency
The Monarchy
#5 - 2016-06-20 06:01:42 UTC
I agree. The stabber needs at least 5 more low slots, 6 more mids and 14 more high slots, and also the ability to fit multiple MWDs so that one of them can easily take out an entire fleet by itself while maneuvering near the speed of light. You know, like the good old days.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#6 - 2016-06-20 06:35:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Galaxxis wrote:
I agree. The stabber needs at least 5 more low slots, 6 more mids and 14 more high slots, and also the ability to fit multiple MWDs so that one of them can easily take out an entire fleet by itself while maneuvering near the speed of light. You know, like the good old days.


being reasonable, I think it needs somewhat more powergrid and CPU so it can fit one more artillery or autocanon, to a one more high slot, something like a glass cannon.

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Another Posting Alt
Zerious Fricken Biziness
#7 - 2016-06-20 07:35:37 UTC
For me it's always a toss up whether I go with the Rupture or the Stabber. Given that, I don't think the Stabber is that bad... unless you think they both suck.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2016-06-20 08:08:06 UTC
Another Posting Alt wrote:
For me it's always a toss up whether I go with the Rupture or the Stabber. Given that, I don't think the Stabber is that bad... unless you think they both suck.

Actually the Rupture can fit an excellent tank compared to the Stabber. I used the Rupture to complete missions in Cosmos Complexes that only allowed access to Cruiser and smaller hull class ships.

Nana Skalski wrote:

being reasonable, I think it needs somewhat more powergrid and CPU so it can fit one more artillery or autocanon, to a one more high slot, something like a glass cannon.

I agree since it's tank is basically a glass cannon already. That's why I didn't use it to run the Cruiser class Cosmos Complexes.



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Sustrai Aditua
Intandofisa
#9 - 2016-06-20 09:37:47 UTC
Stabber is a dam good frame. Fleet Issue, even better. (Fleet Issue mods so well it's almost embarrassing.) Stabber, I think, could go all turret - no spare slots unless you want them. I always thought it needed one more med, as well. It just begs for it.

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Wombat65Au Egdald
R I S E
#10 - 2016-06-20 11:25:04 UTC
Boru Pat Dragoon wrote:
Compared to the other attack cruisers it is missing a slot. It is probably the weakest t1 cruiser atm. What do to reckon?


I like the Stabber, I've spent more time flying Stabbers than any other ship, but "missing a slot"? Compared to which other cruisers?

The T1 Stabber has 14 slots (6,4,4). I Just had a look through the stats of all the T1 cruisers on E-UNI's wiki and could not find any T1 cruisers with 15 slots (I ignored faction cruisers and only looked at the basic T1 cruisers), I did find a bunch that had 13 slots, mostly cruisers bonused for ewar or logistics. The rest had 14 slots just like the Stabber.

If you're going to insist on including faction cruisers to compare to the Stabber, there's the Stabber Fleet Issue which has a 5,4,6 slot layout, can fit projectile turrets to all of it's high slots and has a significantly stronger base tank than the Stabber.

Maybe move one high slot to a mid slot to make it a 5,5,4 layout that can support a more flexible shield tank and a little more powergrid and cpu to handle a 5th autocanon. I certainly wouldn't give the Stabber another slot, it has enough slots already.
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#11 - 2016-06-20 14:18:57 UTC
I think all the Stabber really needs is to simply change a launcher slot to a turret, and buff PG/CPU accordingly.

SFI needs no changes at all.

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Pandora Carrollon
Provi Rapid Response
#12 - 2016-06-20 15:23:58 UTC
T1 Cruisers should be transitional or throw away ships. If you are a serious cruiser captain, Faction/T2 is where your skills need to be applied. Otherwise, progress to larger ships or go back down to smaller ones.

T1 Cruisers are Swiss Army knives, they can do about everything just not great at any of it.

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Eternal Montage
Myriad Sequence
#13 - 2016-06-20 15:32:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternal Montage
I fly a lot if stabbers and I think it's a fantastic ship. It's really fast and kitey and has good range and tracking and neuts, my fit even has a web. What else does it need? The thing destroys frigates. The tank may be light but its lIke the fastest t1 cruiser in the game.. Certainly blows the thorax out of the water. If you want to give it another turret hard point I'm okay with it though.