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Besisdes the known issue i all these:

a) when undocking right clicking give the context menu for the station meaning insta undocks are not avaible.
you have to manually zoom out to be able to right click somewhre not on the station to be able to insta undock.
b) when undocked the camera does not return to the position it had when you dock, it stays zoomed in way too much.

c) and this annoys me the most, when you change ships when docked the screen becomes black for a second to start the animation. This just looks awful when swichting between ships alot.

The animation should be changed from:

remove current ship from view, turn camera to where the new ship is coming so you tun camera towards the ship thats being rolled in.
dont just blacken the screen to start the animation its sloppy.

I get that. And thank god the UI disappearing during black fade is a bug.
But it's extremely disorienting and when you jump into a ship you might need to repair it or insure it or other stuff and you can actually do this on the ship model itself. But if it's moving about I can't do that.

Was at first excited when i saw something on reddit saying there was new animations for docking / un-docking

Thought it might be your ship entering the station/citadel kinda thing.

Tried it....discovered it was not

Although I am not 100% diametrically opposed to this, i really do not see what we are fixing I found the current iteration of these to be a bit disruptive. Some of it seemed to stutter (jerky) I tried with small, med and freighter sized ships, in stations and in citadels.

The undock seemed worse than the docking process - stuttered more and if you are needing an insta warp it felt like it was preventing me from getting away quickly - which if your cargo is full leaving Jita IV undock you want to gtfo as fast as possible. Also it felt like the camera was not working correctly.

Overall I would say we should keep what we have. This is not really making anything faster, nor is it making it better. The current fade and reappear is working fine, there is no loading bar to cover up. The change for the gate animations was to cover something that was tangible, had a loading bar. This is covering that moment of ship outside to inside but i would suggest that its not necessary. This is reminding me of gong......something someone thought up was cool....but nobody who plays the game would ever in 1000 years want to hear. The practical application vs the "hey I have a cool idea".

As I said I am not diametrically opposed to the idea of something.....but im not sold on this.


One other thing.....when warping i noted that things felt funny....like I was looking through the bottom of a glass. Has there been a change to the visuals? Its almost fisheye like and quite distracting. Even just looking around felt weird like I was looking through a lens of some sort. Is this something that can be disabled ?

Cheers

~Regan~

edit: One last thing you may want to sticky this thread ....I am sure there will be more feedback :)

Yea, but that's a lie.

This is amusing, the only thing I see here is put your garbage in if you need to, just make sure you add an option to turn it off. The same with your reddit alt troll post, btw, why did you delete your comments? But you seem to have these delusions of grandeur and it's quite laughable.

It will be amusing to see the rage thread if you force this on everyone. Now that's entertainment.

I have nothing against the new animations really, and there are actual quality of life improvements that are essential to bringing the performance of the new camera up to where the old camera left off. I will say that the transitions can be a little choppy and the black transition is jarring.

More important camera issues are;

Still no way to make panning on the vertical axis the same speed as horizontal axis. This means you require twice as much input to look up and down as left and right. Interestingly, when you right click to free-pan, the vertical and horizontal axis has the same speed.

Zoom increments are too large when zoomed past being able to see your ship. The result of this is it can be hard to find a zoom that is comfortable and adjusting zoom results in such a large shift that it can be disorientating.

Interestingly again, the both button zoom is smooth wiith no obvious increments at all, which is nice, but its max zoom is so low that its entirely useless for the creation of undock bookmarks since the zoom was essential to seeing the docking bay on stations clearly from great distance.

Maximum camera pan out is about 200km, as opposed to 1000km of the old camera. This limits the situational awareness specially with these new grid sizes and carriers ability to engage at 4000+km. This also means that on the mouse wheel, there are very few increments between not being able to see your ship and max zoom out. This means that critical zone useful for kiting is so sensitive to control in comparison to the old camera that its basically awkward. Especially on a ratchet-less scroll wheel mouse, where zooming from just the edge of being able to see your ship, to max zoom out is just a tiny movement on the wheel.

This is the only reason I stuck with the old camera. You took it away from me now I only have three choices.
1st My ship covering my target/ destination
2nd My ship disappearing off the screen
3rd My ship staying on the screen but so small I can barely see it

None of these options works for me. I use to watch my ship and target but now I just click in the overview and wait for the chore to be done. It's not worth watching the ships on the screen anymore. It's very unpleasant to watch. As of right now I just mess with market orders or PI and then log off. I'm really thinking about quitting. If I'm not enjoying what I see on my screen why should I stick around?

I've been playing off and on since 2010, this is the 1st time that I've wanted to quit for good!

God please kill the new camera with fire and damn the people who made it to -15 eyesight.

I either get maximum zoom after each undock or maximum fisheye after each gate jump.

It's like every session change includes a random FOV change.

my eyes broken. is it possible to turn this off?

The login/docking animation is kind of neat but makes me instantly seasick.

vert- decreases the vertical FOV to fit the expanded horizontal width

hor+ just expands the horizontal FOV

this is pretty basic camera stuff