EVE General Discussion

So watchlist changes hurt many niche ways of playing Eve, such as solo wh hunting. But CCP heard supercapital pilots' voice over the niche minority. The argument was that the watchlist was "'free intel".

Now when I am hunting around people invite me to conversation. If I am online then the invitation stays there forever until I reject or accept. If I accept they know it. If I reject they get a rejection notice. If I am offline then they get an immediate "player is unreachable or offline" notice. Thus they know whether I am online or not.

This is not only free intel but also favors one side, which is the side that is being hunted. If I wanted to check online status of a capital pilot he would notice and have time to dock. But the capital pilot can check whether I am online or not for 0 effort or risk.

(Edited) Simple Solution: Make conversation invitations last 1 minute. Have an accept and an ignore button (maybe another reject button optionally). Give the same notice on all cases when the player is offline or when the player ignored the convo or when did not respond in 1 minute.

TLDR: Chat invitation giving away free online status intel similar to watchlist, above a simple solution is offered to fix it.

PS: Can we please strive for a better, well balanced and fairer game instead of keeping introducing changes that favor the majority playstyle? Watchlist gets fixed but this remains there because it favors the majority playstyle and nobody whines about it.

It also works on the other way too if you get them to block you then you get a very clear confirmation whether they are online or offline and they get no warning that you tried to convo them. Because if they are online you get told that they blocked you and if they are offline it tells you they are offline, so the moral of the story is use a toon that you got the target to block, so they do not know that you tested it, moral being a bit of effort gets you intel, which is not free but now gives you a leg up. Have fun...

If you auto-reject conversations, you get the same message as if you were offline. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Oh god, here we go...

If you auto reject it gives a different notification than when you are offline. So still distinguishable.

But I shouldn't have to block everyone just to be able to hunt ships when there can be other solutions like what I offfered.

Oh thanks for the completely useless distinction between free intel and intel you receive through a trivial effort :)

hardly useless distinction between being told when someone is online and having to check when someone is online.

quite a considerable difference actually when scaled to 50+ man entities.

So you're a space coward (aka ganker) who only fights ppl who are either helpless or at a massive disasvantage and you're complaining that you want your victims (yes victims because they arent opponents) to be at even more of a disadvantage. Check.

My original response still applies save maybe one correction "make it so my ships don't show up on my helpless victims overview."

Sadly you're still coming across as a bit of a trolly knobend, which is unfortunate as I know you genuinely believe you are somehow 'better'.

Easiest way would be the same as the duel invites that the pop up expires after 30 sec, or even a notification pop up after that that someone convoed you so at least you know who did from the logs.

But yes this has been an issue for me, I would often just drag the chat request far off field and let it sit there when I was actually around for hours till I rejected it to get ppl to assume I was actually afk. But because you cannot minimize it its a PITA. Same with letting duel requests expire and lol at them thinking you are afk when youre not. Messing with peoples head is an art form if you ask me.