Ships & Modules

Moros is a god when it comes to killing sub caps with it's HAW however the nag is not far behind

nag can fit its Cap guns in its fleet bay and swap them out if you get dropped on(no other dread can do this)

nag not only has capless guns but variable damage types and it can tank with no cap.

personally i like the nag over the moros

Naglfar would be my choice. It's vertical. Also, what Lugh said.

Other than that, consider training for a Phoenix, can't take too long until big alliances realize the Phoenix opness for capital fleet fights.

for raw DPS the Moros is better, but i still think the Nag is better overall dread for the above mentioned reasons.

Naglfar.

Because nano dread you

May I come in here and ask a question related to dreads? I just didn't want to make a thread over a question about a ship I don't have any intention to fly, but I am curious about something and this thread reminded me of it.

Other than the outtlier of the Nag having two turrets due to model restrictions, is there any real difference in the dreads in terms of roles and capabilities? Or, if you have the proper support skills, are they pretty much the same (give or take a little variance)?

Revelation: Strong tank, Scorch OP, worst DPS of the 3 Turret Dreads.
Naglfar: See what other people wrote so far
Moros: Very high maximum DPS

Phoenix: Everyone seems to be "meh" about it. In fact, it delivers 100k Alpha volleys from 0km to 220km, applied 90-100% on capital targets, every 22 seconds (less than 100% only on some weird edge cases where ships have accelerated with MWD and now turned it off and keep gliding with "low" sig and "high" speed. TPs will easily turn it into 100% again).
With Non-Super-Capital EHP somewhere around 6m EHP max for full tank chims / phoenixes, that's 60 dreads you need in order to remove any capital from the field every 22 seconds. And not up close so you can melt them with void, no, you do this to any capital somewhere in the range of 220 km to you. In a very, very tanky fit that requires 4 Doomsdays to remove you.

Naglfar is all cool and stuff, but let's be rational here: The time of shield capitals has come, especially Caldari. Levi / Wyvern get the biggest tank possible, Chim / Phoenix are the most tanky ships in their class, and the Phoenix is the ultimative Omega-Dread, if you can bring the numbers.

Fun fact: If you bring oldschool webs and paints, Phoenixes apply some 5-20% of their volley onto battleships, ofc depending a lot again on the circumstances, but you could actually kill subcaps with some ewar support without refitting to Rapid Torp Launchers.

CHANGES IMMINENT:

Naglfar losing it's 2 Turretslot advantage and goes to 3 slots like the rest.

Conclusion:

Get the tanky ones. Revelation or Phoenix. Unless you're in a WH, then i'd still go for the Moros or Nag, depending on your personal preference.

Q: Why tanky ones?
A: The active tank bonus of the other ones is only strong when you're not facing other capitals. For anything that involves hostile capitals, having maximum EHP (and, thanks to resistances, still a good active tank) will be crucial - else you're just blaped off the field in one of the quickest insurance fraud schemes ever.

Q: Okay, but why the Phoenix?
A: With cruise missiles and on Capital targets, it applies 100%. That's full application, in case you didn't know. From 0 - 220 km. 100-110k Alpha, every ~22 seconds (depending on bling in the lows ofc). While having 5m EHP on shields. This will be the new Blap-Dread for capital engages, removing 3 hositle non-Supercaps per minute with just ~50 Phoenixes of your own. Selectable damage types.