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Sony changes Playstation Network ToS: Class action waiver added.

So, if Sony screws up again, information is compromised again, and our credit card numbers are stolen again, we will have no legal recourse?

I understand the technical hurdles that were overcome by going with PSN instead of XBL, but honestly, this should have been a PC game.

lol what a laugh!

No business on Earth can put that into their ToS and get away with it.

Never would it be legally binding. In fact the idea that you can't take part in a class action is, dare i say it, wildly inappropriate?

I get that CCP wanted to expand into the console market, I don't get why they alienated their player base to do it.

FPS on PCs > FPS on Consoles

Classy Sony. Classy.

You know the old saying 'a little knowledge is a dangerous thing', this applies you to OP. Sony has not 'taken away your legal recourse' they have simply mitigated the chance of them facings a class action. You personally still have legal recourse options in the way of arbitration and court where appropriate. This simply means you + 10000 other subscribers cannot hire a massive lawfirm to sue and cost hundreds of millions in legal fees (yes class action legal fees are million + minimum).

If you live in the US there is something called the Federal Arbitration Code. This specifies what companies can and cannot do to force you into arbitration. Combine this with recent Supreme Court cases that state the arbitration code supersedes any state law + the issue of arbitration legality must be firstly arbitrated leads to a reduction in legal suits. In the end the consumer loses in a bad way. Arbitration is EXPENSIVE! and the fees must be paid upfront. We are talking thousands of dollars to even start the process and you have to do it on Sony's backyard. Sony has become has anti-consumer as a company can get regarding dispute resolution.

If you read the TOS there is a statement in there that states you can opt out of the arbitration only clause if you write to sony directly. I for one will never use sony's services in any way if I can avoid them.

QFT, PC is where fps is at.

lol CCP fucks over their player base fairly often, they prolly dont see this as a reason to not "stay the course"



hell its shelf life (especially if its the Nex store cash shop it looks like its gonna be) will be a few months at best? Whens the next big shooter come out after Bust514?

Much less the PS3 to PS4 or w/e it is exchange. PS has a good history of being backwards compatable tho.



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If that wasnt the case they wouldnt have these:

thingy so you can use a mouse an a keyboard on a xbox

You are right, which is why they are not doing it. There is no point in developing for a playerbase that would be largely alienated due to their platform/controls being inferior, which means in the end they would be shooting their plan to "expand their market to consoles" in the foot.

Hey, 1997 called, they want their popular opinion back.

I see what you did there.