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Which Battleship should I train in to for missioning?

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Adelie Magellanic
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2016-05-30 23:02:39 UTC
Hi there,

I'm in a similar position to the OP and starting to run L4 missions. I'm currently doing this in a Raven but I feel my fit is something of a crapshoot:

6x 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher

500MN MWD
3x Adaptive Invuln Field II
2x Large Shield Extender II
1x Target Painter I

2x BCU II
2x Missile Guidance System II
1x IFFA DCU

1x Anti EM Rig I
2x Core Field Extender I

My damage output is less than stellar and I'm really unconvinced about my tank as well. I've tried looking for fits elsewhere but most are either outdated or use a whole bunch of deadspace stuff I can't really afford. Can someone give me some better fits that are reasonably low skill and not too pricey? Would appreciate it.
aldhura
Blackjack and Exotic Dancers
Top Tier
#42 - 2016-05-30 23:24:47 UTC
On my mobile, but google zaqq lvl4 raven, it works
Malakye Appleton
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#43 - 2016-05-31 03:56:39 UTC
The Rattlesnake is best if you plan to salvage your missions.
Machariel is best for Blitzing.

Living the dream, one tear at a time...
Henry Plantgenet
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2016-06-01 09:17:56 UTC
Rattlesnake/dominix for drones and laziness.
Machariel with either autocannons/artilleries also works
Bastion marauder always a safe bet.
Micro jump drive adviseable for many ships.

Question is; how efficient/fast do you want to run level 4s, are you min/maxing (blitz for LP) or casually going for bounties?
Are you willing to train for different ships to be able to fly multiple mission ships so you can use the best ship for the best missions?
Also T1 crystals are a waste on efficiency because even though T2/faction (cheap faction crystals) are depletable their increase in efficiency via tracking or damage at certain ranges heavily outweighs their replacement cost.
Gimme more Cynos
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#45 - 2016-06-02 22:29:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Gimme more Cynos
Adelie Magellanic wrote:
Hi there,

I'm in a similar position to the OP and starting to run L4 missions. I'm currently doing this in a Raven but I feel my fit is something of a crapshoot:

6x 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher

500MN MWD
3x Adaptive Invuln Field II
2x Large Shield Extender II
1x Target Painter I

2x BCU II
2x Missile Guidance System II
1x IFFA DCU

1x Anti EM Rig I
2x Core Field Extender I

My damage output is less than stellar and I'm really unconvinced about my tank as well. I've tried looking for fits elsewhere but most are either outdated or use a whole bunch of deadspace stuff I can't really afford. Can someone give me some better fits that are reasonably low skill and not too pricey? Would appreciate it.


No wonder that you can't tank or DPS..

Try something along these lines:

2x Rigor Rig
1x Flare Rig

6x CM launcher

1x X-Large Shield booster
1x Heavy capacitor booster (800er charges)
2x mission specific hardners or Invulnerability fields (mission specific recommended)
2x missile guidance computer (precision scripts)
1x Target Painter

3x Ballistic control System
1x Co-Processor

Have not EFTed that fit, but I remember that CPU was tight on newbie-ravens, hence the Co-Pro. If you struggle with the tank => try switching one missile guidance computer for an invulnerability field or another mission specific one.

Should give you plenty of tank whilst maintaining good application.


and don't let anyone tell you you need to be cap stable for any level 4 mission or you need to have a bunch of cap flux coils, power relays or CCC rigs. Use the Cap booster, even if the charges cost a bit. Your faster completition times will make up for the cost of those charges.

If you want to transition into a Golem, reduce tank and fit more damage.
Echo Mande
#46 - 2016-06-06 14:04:39 UTC
Adelie Magellanic wrote:
Hi there,

I'm in a similar position to the OP and starting to run L4 missions. I'm currently doing this in a Raven but I feel my fit is something of a crapshoot:

6x 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher

500MN MWD
3x Adaptive Invuln Field II
2x Large Shield Extender II
1x Target Painter I

2x BCU II
2x Missile Guidance System II
1x IFFA DCU

1x Anti EM Rig I
2x Core Field Extender I

My damage output is less than stellar and I'm really unconvinced about my tank as well. I've tried looking for fits elsewhere but most are either outdated or use a whole bunch of deadspace stuff I can't really afford. Can someone give me some better fits that are reasonably low skill and not too pricey? Would appreciate it.

This fit has issues but should be useable in certain situations. As a mission fit I would replace the MWD with an afterburner, maybe replace one invuln with a racial hardener, upgrade the DCU and replace one MGS with a third BCU.

Where this fit might fit in is in fleet PVP, maybe incursions and probably group missioning. With group missioning I mean a small group of toons flying shield buffer tank ships like this (or even BCs like drakes*, Feroxen and shield Cyclones and Hurricanes) accompanied by 2-3 Ospreys or Scythes to keep everybody repped. If you were going with armortanked ships like Apocs, Megas or armor Tempests or Maelstroms you would take Augorors or Exeqorors with you. Group missioning is a giggle but should teach you all about remote rep and logistics.

*) Yes, I know that drakes can tank adequately on their own. In this case they would sacrifice 2-3 tank midslots for an AB and target painter and/or missile guidance comp, leaving the lows for BCUs and maybe a DC. More speed and DPS, less waiting.

Gimme more Cynos wrote:

No wonder that you can't tank or DPS..

Try something along these lines:

2x Rigor Rig
1x Flare Rig

6x CM launcher

1x X-Large Shield booster
1x Heavy capacitor booster (800er charges)
2x mission specific hardners or Invulnerability fields (mission specific recommended)
2x missile guidance computer (precision scripts)
1x Target Painter

3x Ballistic control System
1x Co-Processor

Have not EFTed that fit, but I remember that CPU was tight on newbie-ravens, hence the Co-Pro. If you struggle with the tank => try switching one missile guidance computer for an invulnerability field or another mission specific one.

Should give you plenty of tank whilst maintaining good application.

and don't let anyone tell you you need to be cap stable for any level 4 mission or you need to have a bunch of cap flux coils, power relays or CCC rigs. Use the Cap booster, even if the charges cost a bit. Your faster completition times will make up for the cost of those charges.

If you want to transition into a Golem, reduce tank and fit more damage.

This looks like Liang Nuren's Navy Raven fit and I agree that it works well. As said, pulse your shield booster and cap booster only as needed.

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