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QOL Improvement: Detachable Overview Tabs
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Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#1 - 2016-05-05 00:45:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Syrias Bizniz
Currently:

One overiew-window. Several tabs which can be configured. Only one overviewtab can be selected at any given time, denying any informations for the pilot that is configured in other tabs.

Proposal:

Allow the players to detach the overviewtabs and have several overview-windows visualise information simultaneously, if desired so.

Benefits:

I can configure a small window for celestials to navigate to that will never become inaccesible, for example because i sort my overview by distance, name or any other attribute i choose to.
I can drop a little window somewhere on my screen that will always show me that somewhere on grid a bombrun is going off.
I can sort hostile fightersquadrons by range, and still have an eye for hostile tackle closing in.
I can do everything the overview settings allow and choose which information i want to see.

Disadvantages:

None. If you don't want to use it that way, keep it as is. Leave the choices to do so to the people that want to.
No balance impact, just better visualisation of EVE's most important thing: Data.



Bracket Profiles:
Add a checkbox at each overview tab that, when ticked, will use that overviee setup's bracket profile.
Corvald Tyrska
Valknetra
#2 - 2016-05-05 08:44:57 UTC
There is some potential to this idea but there would likely be some technical challenges too. The Overview interacts with what brackets are displayed in space. Having multiple Overview tabs active at the same time could cause them to interact strangely or impact client performance, e.g. if I have a type of object in both active Overview tabs and one has brackets on and one has brackets off, which takes priority?
Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#3 - 2016-05-05 19:52:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Syrias Bizniz
Corvald Tyrska wrote:
There is some potential to this idea but there would likely be some technical challenges too. The Overview interacts with what brackets are displayed in space. Having multiple Overview tabs active at the same time could cause them to interact strangely or impact client performance, e.g. if I have a type of object in both active Overview tabs and one has brackets on and one has brackets off, which takes priority?



Good point.

Little checkbox (or similar) on each overviewwindow "USE THIS BRACKET PROFILE"?
Was the first thing that came to mind as a quick, easy, and convenient solution.
Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#4 - 2016-05-18 12:56:02 UTC
No objections?

Nice.
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#5 - 2016-05-18 15:12:22 UTC
Would be handy.

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Zatar Sharisa
New Eden Heavy Industries Incorporated
#6 - 2016-05-19 02:46:31 UTC
This would be kind of handy, since the overview doesn't lend itself to any sort of sorting other than the tabs, and only one is viewable at a time.

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Dirty Pool
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2016-05-20 14:24:46 UTC
Corvald Tyrska wrote:
There is some potential to this idea but there would likely be some technical challenges too. The Overview interacts with what brackets are displayed in space. Having multiple Overview tabs active at the same time could cause them to interact strangely or impact client performance, e.g. if I have a type of object in both active Overview tabs and one has brackets on and one has brackets off, which takes priority?


That's definitely true, and the checkbox change suggested would "solve the problem", but frankly the odd connection between overview filtering and brackets has always struck me as mediocre design. They should really be independent UI systems each with their own filters.

I was going to suggest the multiple overviews as well. Great idea!
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#8 - 2016-05-20 15:49:11 UTC
Syrias Bizniz wrote:
No objections?

Nice.



Patience. I are trying to figure out where I would put those without taking too much screen space. Okay, I can't. OCD and all.

And since all of them are there already, I guess it won't brake anything.

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Dirty Pool
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2016-05-20 17:35:14 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
Syrias Bizniz wrote:
No objections?

Nice.



Patience. I are trying to figure out where I would put those without taking too much screen space. Okay, I can't. OCD and all.

And since all of them are there already, I guess it won't brake anything.


I actually think this might reduce screen bloat because you could make one narrow "high priority" overview with war targets and such, and another with navigation targets that could be smaller for scrolling. So instead of being stuck with one giant screen-sucking overview that needs to be large because it's doing double-duty, you could have 2 smaller ones.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#10 - 2016-05-22 00:23:53 UTC
I would love to be able to link or pin an overview to a specific ship. That is, make the overview part of the fitting.

Reason being that in a turret boat transversal is a good thing to know, but in a missile boat, speed of the target is more important.

A fleet doctrine fit certainly calls for a fleet tab, especially a logi. But a solo PVP fit would need no such thing.

Being able to export tabs from one overview setting package to another, as pinned to the fitting, would be great for creating new fittings and being able to move tabs over in this process.


Of course while not particularly a feat of graphics I don't imagine these changes to be easy.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#11 - 2016-05-22 00:38:36 UTC
Mazzara
Band of the Red Sun
#12 - 2016-05-24 22:57:55 UTC
Ive been wanting this forever now +1 
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Dolorous Tremmens
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2016-05-25 00:57:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Dolorous Tremmens
This would be a godsend

The bracket profile issue might be solved with having the single selected overview out of the multiple displayed overviews bracket profile take precedence, and is the only one to display overview broadcasts.

Click on another, and its bracket profile takes over as well as broadcast info. When instant potato mode is needed, a global brackets toggleable from any of the overviews' settings tabs.

It would also help sort out targets from different multi alliance fleets, because I'm a fan of selective cruelty.

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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#14 - 2016-05-25 03:12:49 UTC
As long as it doesn't break something...
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SilverDagger Hyacinthus
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#15 - 2016-05-26 14:01:27 UTC
+1 to this idea. I don't really see a gameplay mechanic being broken off the top of my head. I see some technical stuff would need to be worked out, and I think something could be done regarding multiple brackets active (guess really just check-boxes is good).