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Are Citadel Markets like Contracts?

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Veine Miromme
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-05-25 04:05:05 UTC
I was checking for the price of Skill Injectors on eve-central.com,
and the best deal offered was in Jita IV-4...

It now shows 8 units at:
586,996,999.00 ISK

Now, I flown there, and to my amazement, there are some cheaper in the same region that show up in the EVE Market ingame browser.

Now, contracts don't show up on that browser.


So, maybe , I think , there is a way to modify the code to show up on those 3rd party program..?



Also, I bought one Skill Injector remotely, for 2m less than the Jita quoted price and,
I didn't know if I could even dock at that citadel in Perimeter.

I flown over there, and there was a dock function that showed up in the tooltip although that,
it took over 15 minutes to come up on my end due to lag.

Also, once I arrived and was tethered, I couldn't figure out how to dock,
even though the top right button to dock and undock are right there.

Anyways, the Skill Injector purchased (not cheap at 582m ISK,
the remainder of my balance) was there and moved to 8.0+ AU/sec hauler's cargo bay.

Ship Type : Out of pod (for now)

erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#2 - 2016-05-25 07:32:19 UTC
You are proud gallente, your home is Dodixie, stop making caldari space rich again ;)

Now serios: eve-central does not display prices in citadels, just as it does not display prices in some low sec or 0.0 regions. The thing is, you can use citadel to set up sell order with very low taxes, that can be accepted in other station. Region - wide. Ppl start to use Elysium and now other citadels as well to set up such orders in The Forge (so ppl in Jita can buy their stuff), I hope it will soon enough to Gallente space as well, because it helps. Botane can be just the same thing for Dodixie as Perimeter for Jita.
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#3 - 2016-05-25 11:08:30 UTC
Citadels dont show up on Eve-Central because they do not show up on CREST
Kolodi Ramal
Sanxing Yi
#4 - 2016-05-25 12:29:12 UTC
Rhivre wrote:
Citadels dont show up on Eve-Central because they do not show up on CREST

wtg CCP :| gj promoting and supporting your latest expansion's big feature
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2016-05-25 12:33:09 UTC
Kolodi Ramal wrote:
Rhivre wrote:
Citadels dont show up on Eve-Central because they do not show up on CREST

wtg CCP :| gj promoting and supporting your latest expansion's big feature

You know, CCP wants more people to actually login? Twisted

I'm my own NPC alt.

Plleasure Hub
Municorn
#6 - 2016-05-27 01:07:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Plleasure Hub
People need to stop blowing up all the citadels so I can go test them out. Is it true that you can't use courier contracts with citadels? That and absence from EVE-Central are going to hurt their adoption. I use EVE-Central quite often to decide where to source raw materials from. If the materials listed at citadels don't appear there, I probably won't know they exist, and thus won't go to or contract from those citadels, thus not making use of this cool new game object.

#MakeCitadelsGreatAgain !

"There's no meaningful difference between a real and a virtual world. It's pointless to ask anyone who they really are. All you can do is accept and believe in them, because whoever they are in your mind, is their true identity." — Kazuto Kirigaya

Veine Miromme
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2016-05-27 07:40:27 UTC
Plleasure Hub wrote:
People need to stop blowing up all the citadels so I can go test them out.
1. Is it true that you can't use courier contracts with citadels?
2. That and absence from EVE-Central are going to hurt their adoption.
3. I use EVE-Central quite often to decide where to source raw materials from.
4. If the materials listed at citadels don't appear there, I probably won't know they exist, and thus won't go to or contract from those citadels, thus not making use of this cool new game object.

#MakeCitadelsGreatAgain !

"1.
Is it true that you can't use courier contracts with citadels?"
A.
I am not sure about courier contracts and citadel yet, but I have never tried yet.
I could test by purchasing something that goes to the Citadel Item Hangar, or whatever it's called and try to make a courier contract.
I'm not even sure if normal contract can be done there.
Once bought, and that, even if bought remotely, the item in the citadel may not show up in the Asset tool.

"2.
That and absence from EVE-Central are going to hurt their adoption."
A.
Citadel items show up on the EVE Online ingame market tool.
Let's say, EVE-Central display a station item, and the Citadel competing item is in the same region, the trader or agent to verify the region market ingame will see those offers, perhaps, unless limited to system...

"3.
I use EVE-Central quite often to decide where to source raw materials from. "
A.
Same as 2. above.

"4.
If the materials listed at citadels don't appear there, I probably won't know they exist, and thus won't go to or contract from those citadels, thus not making use of this cool new game object."
A.
You would need agents to contract with them if you cannot go in the region, unless there is some other way.

Note : A = Answer.

Ship Type : Out of pod (for now)

Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#8 - 2016-05-27 10:35:43 UTC
Plleasure Hub wrote:
People need to stop blowing up all the citadels so I can go test them out. Is it true that you can't use courier contracts with citadels? That and absence from EVE-Central are going to hurt their adoption. I use EVE-Central quite often to decide where to source raw materials from. If the materials listed at citadels don't appear there, I probably won't know they exist, and thus won't go to or contract from those citadels, thus not making use of this cool new game object.

#MakeCitadelsGreatAgain !



Courier contracts will be in in the summer.

At the moment, people are offshoring (shameless plug for a thing I wrote about it: https://www.themittani.com/features/offshoring-tax-avoidance-comes-new-eden ) to avoid taxes by buying in the citadel at range, and relisting in the hubs.
Plleasure Hub
Municorn
#9 - 2016-05-28 02:51:11 UTC
Veine Miromme wrote:
"1.
Is it true that you can't use courier contracts with citadels?"
A.
I am not sure about courier contracts and citadel yet, but I have never tried yet.
I could test by purchasing something that goes to the Citadel Item Hangar, or whatever it's called and try to make a courier contract.
I'm not even sure if normal contract can be done there.
Once bought, and that, even if bought remotely, the item in the citadel may not show up in the Asset tool.

"2.
That and absence from EVE-Central are going to hurt their adoption."
A.
Citadel items show up on the EVE Online ingame market tool.
Let's say, EVE-Central display a station item, and the Citadel competing item is in the same region, the trader or agent to verify the region market ingame will see those offers, perhaps, unless limited to system...

"3.
I use EVE-Central quite often to decide where to source raw materials from. "
A.
Same as 2. above.

"4.
If the materials listed at citadels don't appear there, I probably won't know they exist, and thus won't go to or contract from those citadels, thus not making use of this cool new game object."
A.
You would need agents to contract with them if you cannot go in the region, unless there is some other way.

Note : A = Answer.

Thanks for the detailed response! Regarding how the items show up in the in-game market browser - that is quite a limitation when you are regularly using third party tools to check prices outside your current region. I assumed that lots of players do this, especially those with larger scale market operations or cross-regional trading activities. I realize that this is a complaint related to third party tools, but the fact is that NPC station items work in said tools, while Citadels do not.

Veine Miromme wrote:
Courier contracts will be in in the summer.

At the moment, people are offshoring (shameless plug for a thing I wrote about it: https://www.themittani.com/features/offshoring-tax-avoidance-comes-new-eden ) to avoid taxes by buying in the citadel at range, and relisting in the hubs.

That's awesome to hear about contracts. Getting that in place will go a long way towards full adoption. The tax avoidance is a neat trick. Sadly, though, it's not as enticing to larger-scale space businesses who rely on courier contracts for risk mitigation and outsourcing of labor.

"There's no meaningful difference between a real and a virtual world. It's pointless to ask anyone who they really are. All you can do is accept and believe in them, because whoever they are in your mind, is their true identity." — Kazuto Kirigaya

Poman Peigns
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2016-05-30 18:30:52 UTC
Contracts in citadels is the new walking in stations, except people actually want it!