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Those are some very persistent hackers.

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Zathra Narazi
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2016-05-23 19:27:53 UTC
They've been spamming the forum with keyloggers for so many years I can't even remember when they started. Did someone at CCP just forget that message was there or what?
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#2 - 2016-05-23 22:08:35 UTC
Odd. I've not seen any.

Also, using two-factor authentication is recommended.
Zathra Narazi
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2016-05-23 22:28:29 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Odd. I've not seen any.

Also, using two-factor authentication is recommended.

I'm talking about the message when you click a link that leads outside the forum.
Paranoid Loyd
#4 - 2016-05-23 22:46:30 UTC
Why would they remove it? It's a warning, just because you've used the machine a million times that has a sign on it "do not touch here, not only will you die, it will hurt the whole time you are dying" Do you remove that?

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Zathra Narazi
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2016-05-23 23:32:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Zathra Narazi
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Why would they remove it? It's a warning, just because you've used the machine a million times that has a sign on it "do not touch here, not only will you die, it will hurt the whole time you are dying" Do you remove that?

The warning isn't actually true. I've never even heard of anyone ever getting a keylogger from the forum. It's certainly not happening anywhere near frequently enough that it can be called spam. That's a terrible analogy. I've been touching that spot on the machine daily since beta without so much as a paper cut. The message makes it sound like there's an ongoing invasion by Lizard Squad or whoever flooding the forum with dozens of keylogger links constantly. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with having a warning, but it at least shouldn't be an absurdly hyperbolic one.

PS: And it's funny that you'd use warning labels as an example. The US has such a broken legal system that our warning labels are notoriously massive overkill because everyone is terrified of frivolous lawsuits.
Paranoid Loyd
#6 - 2016-05-23 23:47:17 UTC
Confirming because you've never heard of it happening to anyone it doesn't happen. Roll

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Iain Cariaba
#7 - 2016-05-24 01:25:59 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Confirming because you've never heard of it happening to anyone it doesn't happen. Roll

Now, now, Loyd, you're just being paranoid.

Let OP not have the warning. Then, when he does get a keylogger, we can all point out that he could have been warned, but he thought the one extra click of a mouse was too much effort.
Blastil
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#8 - 2016-05-24 01:29:04 UTC
Not to lend credence to a bad idea, but could we get it put into the same page? Its 2016, and event.preventDefault() has been a thing for quite a while now....
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#9 - 2016-05-24 02:35:22 UTC
Zathra Narazi wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Why would they remove it? It's a warning, just because you've used the machine a million times that has a sign on it "do not touch here, not only will you die, it will hurt the whole time you are dying" Do you remove that?

The warning isn't actually true. I've never even heard of anyone ever getting a keylogger from the forum.

2 things:

1. The warning isn't about getting a keylogger from the forum per se. It is a warning that by following a link outside of the forum there is a possibility of being infected.

2. It is a CYA ("Cover Your Ass") legal message from and for CCP.
By stating there is a risk in following a random URL outside of the forum and you choosing to ignore it (by selecting "YES" and going to said link), CCP absolves itself of any responsibility on what is on the other end.


Basically, there is no good reason to remove it. It does what it is supposed to; warn you of a potential risk.

And yes... there is a risk. There is always a risk.
If memory serves me right, there was a keylogger that infected computers that visited the Superbowl website some years back. They keylogger was specific for World of Warcraft and it resulted in quite a few accounts being compromised.
Zathra Narazi
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2016-05-24 05:18:53 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
1. The warning isn't about getting a keylogger from the forum per se. It is a warning that by following a link outside of the forum there is a possibility of being infected.

I clearly speak English.

ShahFluffers wrote:
2. It is a CYA ("Cover Your Ass") legal message from and for CCP.
By stating there is a risk in following a random URL outside of the forum and you choosing to ignore it (by selecting "YES" and going to said link), CCP absolves itself of any responsibility on what is on the other end.

I get that. I'm saying it could be better worded.


ShahFluffers wrote:
Basically, there is no good reason to remove it. It does what it is supposed to; warn you of a potential risk.

The word "remove" doesn't appear in any of my posts. That was you guys.
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#11 - 2016-05-24 05:52:05 UTC
Zathra Narazi wrote:
PS: And it's funny that you'd use warning labels as an example. The US has such a broken legal system that our warning labels are notoriously massive overkill because everyone is terrified of frivolous lawsuits.


Well... there was this time when someone ironed one of those iron-on stickers on his t-shirt...


...while wearing it.





But yeah that message *is* annoying.
Iain Cariaba
#12 - 2016-05-24 06:11:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Iain Cariaba
Zathra Narazi wrote:
PS: And it's funny that you'd use warning labels as an example. The US has such a broken legal system that our warning labels are notoriously massive overkill because everyone is terrified of frivolous lawsuits.

Remember, for every warning label you find on a product, there's an idiot out there that did exactly what the label warns you not to do, and successfully sued over it.

The sad part isn't the broken legal system. The sad part is that the legal system rewards stupidity. Every day we get one step closer to "Idiocracy" becoming reality.
Roenok Baalnorn
Baalnorn Heavy Industries
#13 - 2016-05-24 06:32:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Roenok Baalnorn
Zathra Narazi wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Why would they remove it? It's a warning, just because you've used the machine a million times that has a sign on it "do not touch here, not only will you die, it will hurt the whole time you are dying" Do you remove that?

The warning isn't actually true. I've never even heard of anyone ever getting a keylogger from the forum. It's certainly not happening anywhere near frequently enough that it can be called spam. That's a terrible analogy. I've been touching that spot on the machine daily since beta without so much as a paper cut. The message makes it sound like there's an ongoing invasion by Lizard Squad or whoever flooding the forum with dozens of keylogger links constantly. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with having a warning, but it at least shouldn't be an absurdly hyperbolic one.

PS: And it's funny that you'd use warning labels as an example. The US has such a broken legal system that our warning labels are notoriously massive overkill because everyone is terrified of frivolous lawsuits.


"Caution: Contents may be hot!" on the side of mc donalds( everyone does it now) coffee cups cause some lady sued mc donalds when she spilled hot coffee in her lap out of one of the cups. If you order a coffee you would assume its hot, no?

Btw, that lady got $2.7 million because she suffered 3rd degree burns to her pelvic region from spilling the coffee in her lap. she was 79 years old.
Sustrai Aditua
Intandofisa
#14 - 2016-05-24 08:52:23 UTC
The cake is a lie.

It is traditional to tell you the concern whose venue you are leaving is not vouching for the place you're going.

If you have a problem with that, I'd say you need therapy. Posting the details of your neurosis here won't help you.

If we get chased by zombies, I'm tripping you.

March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2016-05-24 09:20:55 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Confirming because you've never heard of it happening to anyone it doesn't happen. Roll

do you always wear your space suit with closed helmet (you know: anything can happen and you'll find yourself in open space!)? Lol

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#16 - 2016-05-24 18:07:15 UTC
AUDREY BITONI



2010



Nevar forget...

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#17 - 2016-05-24 18:16:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Zathra Narazi wrote:
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Odd. I've not seen any.

Also, using two-factor authentication is recommended.

I'm talking about the message when you click a link that leads outside the forum.

Oh.

I don't even pay attention to those.

Also, have you noticed how some sites are excluded?

Bumblefck wrote:
AUDREY BITONI



2010



Nevar forget...

Yes, that was a horrible period on the forums.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#18 - 2016-05-24 18:43:52 UTC
It was terrible, really. Naked ladies are all good and well, but they just got in the way of serious EVEing way too much

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Hawke Frost
#19 - 2016-05-24 19:09:37 UTC
Zathra Narazi wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Why would they remove it? It's a warning, just because you've used the machine a million times that has a sign on it "do not touch here, not only will you die, it will hurt the whole time you are dying" Do you remove that?

The warning isn't actually true. I've never even heard of anyone ever getting a keylogger from the forum.


A couple of years ago the forum got spammed like mad with all kinds of shady links and whatnot, that's when they put it in.
Hawke Frost
#20 - 2016-05-24 19:10:22 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
AUDREY BITONI



2010



Nevar forget...


sex leg.
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