Ships & Modules

This is what one of my toons is using currently. Super tanky, but still like 680dps.

How can I improve on this or should I start from scratch?

Thanks all!

[Ishtar, TestIshtar]

Damage Control II
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Medium Armor Repairer II

Stasis Webifier II
Warp Scrambler II
50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I

Heavy Electron Blaster II
Heavy Electron Blaster II
Heavy Electron Blaster II
Heavy Electron Blaster II

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I


Valkyrie II x2
Gecko x2
Warrior II x1

Null M x1000
Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M x800
Navy Cap Booster 800 x8
Caldari Navy Iron Charge M x1298

Can only have 3 out with that setup and its more damage?

Oo

I was actually going to suggest 180mm autos to take of some cap pressure.

The fit is solid there are a couple of changes I might make though they are marginal incremental changes.

I think you can fit a restrained microwarpdrive and you should do so. Even better if you did fit autos I think you can fit T2 which is now faster as well as having less cap penalty.

I don't think the gecko cost is justified but that is just me. That Isk could get you T2 rigs or a faction mod like a navy web.

Lows are solid, possibly an RAH over the explosive hardener depending the ships you expect to fight, could change a rig to explosive pump if required. From an overheating point of view things could be moved around a bit, reps on the ends.

Reactive hardener on something with such a small armor buffer are generally bad, I can elaborate further if you would like but not got tons of time to get into it right this second. It generally boils down whether the fight is a 1v1 where you are taking only two damage types. In that case it is better but in nearly all other situations it is worse than a second eanm (especially using a ancil rep in combination).

[Ishtar, Savage Ishtar]
Corelum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer,Nanite Repair Paste

50MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I
Stasis Webifier II
Warp Scrambler II

Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Small Energy Neutralizer II
Heavy Electron Blaster II,Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Electron Blaster II,Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Anti-Explosive Pump II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II

Acolyte II x10
Hornet EC-300 x5
Praetor II x5
Infiltrator II x5
Ogre II x5

This is about as optimised as it gets and covers every eventuality. It gives you marginally less dps than an autocannon variant you posted (although they are a good option). The main difference being you get a medium and small neut which allows you to break some things you otherwise would be unable to and allows you to shake tackle if required.

Never use x2 Gecko, x1 heavy on any 125 bandwidth drone ship ever. It is always an inferior combination of drones compared to x2 Gecko, x2 Mediums, x1 light regardless of the heavy drone tracking bonus. Can support that with the boring numbers if you would like to see.

Meta the neuts if you want to run it in a totally clean pod but a 3% PG implant is cheap. Personally i would not run Geckos on a brawl Ishtar (too easy to lose it) but it comes down to personal preference. The above fit will cost you 300m on the nose.

This is as good of a fit as it gets if you're in lowsec. If you're in null, go with a MWD.

It's a judgement call if you want to swap out a DDA w/ another EANM or hardener. Bling out the reppers as you deem fit. Avoid Geckos as the damage isn't that much higher compared to 5 heavies. Don't use a reactive hardener unless you know the incoming damage is one type. Not to mention it takes a good minute for the reactive hardener to reach it's peak

If you got the isk, spend the money on 5 augmented ogres which is 35M ISK each. 742 DPS. Otherwise, it's 675 DPS with Ogres.

Avoid guns in the highslot and just put 2 neuts and a small nos. The idea is that you're applying DPS to a primary and neuting and nosing another target. This helps reduce incoming dps because once the ship is cap-dry, you're probably hitting a third into your AAR. The less dps you can absorb, the greater your survivability. I don't think the guns are worth it because you also have to account for getting into range. Some people just aren't great at multi-tasking whereby you need to watch your repping, capacitor, if they're killing your drones, if you're in range with your guns,etc...

Just let your drones do the damage and minimize the sensory overload

[Ishtar, solo]
Medium Armor Repairer II
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II

10MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II

Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Small Energy Nosferatu II
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Nanobot Accelerator II

Ogre II x5
'Augmented' Ogre x5
Warrior IIx5
Valkyrie IIx5
Hornet EC-300 x5

glorious triple rep ishtar reporting:


[Ishtar, New Setup 2]
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Medium Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Medium Armor Repairer II

50MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Faint Epsilon Scoped Warp Scrambler
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800

Light Ion Blaster II, Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Antimatter Charge S

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II

Ogre II x5
Bouncer II x5
Infiltrator II x5
Acolyte II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
Nanite Repair Paste x300
Void S x1500
Null S x1500
Navy Cap Booster 800 x20

Awesome guys. Its great to see all the different fits.

Its for the kiting fits (which are kinda dead now), a rack of 200s or light ions or similar isnt going to help you there, but 3 medium neuts mean tackle is not sticking on you.

For the brawlling fits you dont have the cap sadly, if you use dual rep with a booster all your cap is going to your reps and you cant afford to neut.