EVE General Discussion

Hey Aaron is that you?

Up to it again? My points of view.

Hub Zero was actual almost there he did it almost together with Dracvlad.
I was seeing progress true the whole setup so much that I was willing to provide the items needed.

To start of you need the pilots and the pilots need ships.
What kind of ships is needed depends on what they want PVP or PVE or both.

PVP is very difficult to do often having the correct items on time each time could be a struggle.
PVE ships are more or less easy to bring in in the ''old'' days we could jump them in with carriers now this is a new problem the carrier range!

So having ships and equipment will be a huge task you need people willing to bring them in.
I know Dracvlad did this many times on his own having jump points scouted and cyno's ready a huge task. Just for bringing in some ships.
But in the end you will have your ships ready for your pilots.

I started to seed the markets getting stuff from everywhere there are some good 0.0 markets close I that I could use.
The problem is if I wanted to come even in isk I had to recalculate the item on the market buying it and jf fuel cost.
People didn't like that they wanted to see Jita prices but that is not possible in Stain at this moment.

I placed about 15 poco's with 5% tax and some of them 0%tax. I don't think they are ever used.

But.....

I think this is the place to be if you are a solo pilot not in a alliance and you want to get some additional isk.
You can do your pve in 0.0 in a reasonable safe place.
You can do this also in Providence but Stain is even more remote.

For Aaron I would say take it easy with the members if they just want to be there as in a blue status let them.
A blue pilot will not attack you (normally) that is also adding to the system.

Good luck with your logistics/carriers your freaking need it with the new jump ranges.

I actual would like to see a new kind of logistic carrier with the old jump ranges but that's not discussed here.

FYI to have the market seeded so the ''more'' used TII equipment was there was about 10billion to start of.
I brought my bpo's back to ''other'' places god that was a scary run haha.
I still have stuff in the old stations just random things maybe there is something for you in it Jita price.

Good luck.

Hey Again Jimbo,

I just wanted to say you were a pleasure to work with and I have no ill feelings toward you. At the time I felt I needed to cut all ties with people who didn't understand what Hub Zero was. Because you had an association with Drac and Moac I felt I had to distance myself so there was no confusion.

I'm hoping the community will help me to make this something you can once again be involved in.

Unfortunately, it may be more of an indicator of the health of the Eve Forums than the idea of Hub Zero.

Normally Aaron posts daily updates and whatnot hence my comment .

Hello Maker,

I think you have gotten used to a play style that will restrict your game and make it difficult for you to flourish here in Stain.

Home defence fleets can be tricky to organise for a loose coalition of blues, but not impossible. There are other ways to secure your earning potential without relying fully on the ability to dock or even having a defence fleet, have you considered an "under the radar" type of play? Part of this venture is about limiting your loss by taking full advantage of things like cloaking, D-scan, insta-undocks, gatescan bookmarks, gate-crashing, scouting, using all 3 of your toon slots and skilling your toons for specific purposes.

In Stain if you play solo or in a small corp that relies heavily on docking at a station then yes your play style will leave you open to being camped in the station and spinning your ship. However, If you can fit a cloak to your ship and cloak in a system with no station then I can almost 100% guarantee that you will not be bothered and you'll be free to earn your money. This is my reality some of my toons haven't docked in years.

I'm not saying Hub members have to live like this forever, I'm thinking we stay under the radar until we can get to know our other blues well and develop friendship and trust. I'm not one to play this game in a conventional way I will take the time to analyse things and find loopholes a major loophole is that hardly anyone is bothered to camp a system with no station, I have taken it to the extreme and fully exploited this and am eager to show other pilots this play-style. No unknown toon docking in a station can ruin MY game, that's a fact.

My 13 years of playing Eve have enabled me to see what is difficult to see which makes me a good person to organise this and ensure all members of Hub Zero are trustworthy and here to help move the venture forward.

Please please try to think outside the bubble @ Maker, great adventures await.

Sales for my T1 crap which no one wants or needs has reached approx 1/3 of a billion isk since I started this thread. All of the systems around here that do not have a station remain empty and untouched, and there are a couple of corps living at the main station system doing missions and sites. There is gigatonne's of fertile land to sow our seeds of growth.

HAHAHAHAHAHA, I've only just realised my toon does bear a likeness to Steven Seagal.

Steven Seagal's fighting style is unorthodox, he is great at fighting with his unusual but effective style. very similar to my playstyle in Eve.

Hello Aaron,

It's good to see this goal is still being pursued. Don't ever give up on the dream and I wish you the best of luck and much success in this endeavor.

As for the flakeys trolls, just ignore them and definitely don't give them the satisfaction of acknowledging their fail replies.

I must say the whole idea of Hub Zero is definitely intriguing. I would very much like to visit it when it get's established. I don't do Industry, mining, PI, etc, I'm just a nomadic explorer, basically roaming thru-out the Eve Universe. I don't usually spend great lengths of time in one place other than my home system Rens.

Once again, good luck with the project.



DMC

Actually a blind man could see it, you've posted 6 replies here already, most of which is sarcastic and demeaning.



DMC

I've had an old friend show some interest in Hub Zero and I've got my fingers crossed.

He has come back to Stain and found that the CEO of his old corp has turned everyone against him and he is alone down here. I informed him that I am doing a more relaxed Hub Zero were where for the moment I'd just like to blue a few solo players to get a solid foundation going, he seemed to like the idea.

I'm determined not to screw this up. I'm just gonna be cool and go with the flow while still trying to build the Hub.

I honestly think I can help this dude with earning, pvp, and scouting, he can also help me.

It is interesting that he contacted me, maybe he knew I wouldn't turn him away. He knows I am loyal to the cause and I will stop at nothing to see Hub Zero succeed.

Hub Zero is the way forward for Eve in my opinion, recruiting is hard, maintaining a corporation is hard. Blue communities can help people feel as if they're not alone.

Hey Chopper,

Great to see you take a break from trolling and put forward some ideas.

You are correct, there are lots of blue communities in null. The main problem is that if a solo pilot or small corp try to join these communities they will demand payment or say that your corp is too small and try to roll you up into their corp or alliance. The solo player will decline and were back to square one again where solo players remain solo for most of their eve experience.

I've joined a few alliances in my time and I remember not being able to have much freedom to do what I wanted. I remember being told to go on gate camps and pvp ops when I didn't really want to. It felt like other people owned my game. I'm not saying it is like this in every corp or alliance, I'm just saying that this play style isn't for everyone.

I think you're right about the mining, I would hope that when more people join the Hub we can setup something like this and get some pvp out of it and extra minerals. The Prospect suits the current situation because I am alone and am happy to settle for a limited amount of minerals while taking less risk. I have been selling Vexor's for 15 million at the moment and considering selling them at 17 to 20 million. I know I will still get sales because I don't have much competition and my customers know it is a struggle to get minerals here.