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Optimizing EVE for two clients?
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Not another alt
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-01-14 08:55:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Not another alt
hi. so i've acknowledged that my hardware might begin to become out dated, or at least not good enough to smoothly run two or more EVE clients. so i'm wondering what kind of settings I should fiddle with to get better performance, while still having decent graphics?

with one client going, this game looks awesome and runs perfectly. but when i load my scanner alt, things start to chop a bit and I get much lower FPS. so is thre anything I can do to optimize my client or something? I like to have ok graphisc. :P

Intel quad core 2,66GHz processor, 4GB RAM and HD Raedon 4890 graphics card (I'm 80% sure that's what it's called.
Avensys
The Waterworks
#2 - 2012-01-14 09:11:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Avensys
Not another alt wrote:
hi. so i've acknowledged that my hardware might begin to become out dated, or at least not good enough to smoothly run two or more EVE clients. so i'm wondering what kind of settings I should fiddle with to get better performance, while still having decent graphics?

with one client going, this game looks awesome and runs perfectly. but when i load my scanner alt, things start to chop a bit and I get much lower FPS. so is thre anything I can do to optimize my client or something? I like to have ok graphisc. :P

Intel quad core 2,66GHz processor, 4GB RAM and HD Raedon 4890 graphics card (I'm 80% sure that's what it's called.

maybe tell us what settings you are currently using and what is important to you?

I run 2-3 EVE clients just fine on a Radeon HD 4850 (which should be slightly weaker than your card) at these settings http://i.imgur.com/vnF2D.jpg
(8GB RAM, Phenom II x4 920)

I usually play zoomed out so I see at least the tactical overlay's 50km radius, so shadows, high quality shaders, ... are a waste of resources for my purposes.

Activating drone models is just asking for massive fps drops in larger fleets and missile effects are imo the most annoying thing in EVE ever.

I don't use CQ so these settings are kinda random.

For me the most omportant graphics setting is Texture Quality as I want my ship to look nice when I spin it in station.
I can run 2 clients without issues on high Texture Quality but with 3 clients graphics started to feel laggy (which I don't really understand - doesn't the gfx card recognize that all 3 clients share the same textures and load them only once?).
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#3 - 2012-01-14 09:19:00 UTC
Minimize all graphics options. I run at the low end of the hardware spectrum, and that's what I do when I need to run 2-3 clients.

Then when I'm down to one, I pop them back up a bit.

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Not another alt
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-01-14 09:20:25 UTC
Sorry, forgot to include what I want to prioritize, etc. :) I mainly do PVE nowadays, so larger fleet battles isn't an issue. But the most important thing is that the proximal environment and ship looks as good as possible.

My current settings are all max, except anti aliasing, which is on low. I've tried fiddling with various settings, but I get so indecisive. Smile

I don't use CQ either.
Ultim8Evil
Exit-Strategy
Unchained Alliance
#5 - 2012-01-14 09:55:08 UTC
Might I suggest overclocking?

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Not another alt
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-01-14 10:10:49 UTC
Ultim8Evil wrote:
Might I suggest overclocking?


Do you think that will help noticeably? The graphics card has its own GUI for overclocking built into the control center, so it's not a lot of work to actually do it.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#7 - 2012-01-14 10:13:00 UTC
Not another alt wrote:
Ultim8Evil wrote:
Might I suggest overclocking?


Do you think that will help noticeably? The graphics card has its own GUI for overclocking built into the control center, so it's not a lot of work to actually do it.


Be verrry verry careful. Overclocking without knowing exactly what you're doing is a fast track to buying a new graphics card.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Not another alt
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-01-14 10:21:43 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:

Be verrry verry careful. Overclocking without knowing exactly what you're doing is a fast track to buying a new graphics card.


Yeah, I know. But I'm thinking that if it has a chance to give a significantly better gaming experience, it might be worth looking into.

Heh, I actually tried to use the overclocking functionality of the Catalyst Control Center a while back, but I got a BSOD before I really got to test it out - though that turned out to be driver related, so no apparent hardware fault. Smile
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#9 - 2012-01-14 10:52:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Large Collidable Object
I don't remember what generation of GPUs it is you use, however, you may want to look into CPU load caused by the client and locking down everything else causing CPU load.

I use a Core 2 Quad CPU Q9650 @ 3 Ghz, 8 gigs of ram and a geforce gtx 570 and since last year, I experience choppy game clients from time to time (especially when just opening my item hangar on one of the clients - seems to have started with the introduction of carbon UI).

Changing graphics settings doesn't change anything, yet I see the clients putting out 100% CPU load on occasion, so for me, CPU is the bottleneck. Since your CPU seems to be the same generation as mine but running at lower clock speeds, you may want to look into that as well...
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B DeLeon
DeLeon Industries
#10 - 2012-01-14 11:31:27 UTC
In my oppinion the biggest difference in visuals is between low and medium shader. With low shader the game is just too light and plastic. I have something similar config and I'm playing with the general performance settings but with medium shader and high texture (and turned on effects except drones). With 2 clients I have 60+ fps sometimes 100+ and with 1 cient I have 40-50+ fps in pvp (30+ in really huge fights <- not so good but still enjoyable even if I zoomed in).
Not another alt
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-01-14 12:13:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Not another alt
Hm, I've set this as the settings for now. Haven't tested it out much yet, but FPS seems to be fluctuating between 45-60 with two clients, with no significant "chopping", except the map. Have googled some for tweaks/tricks, but all I came across was a EVElopedia that said to turn off brackets, so if anyone have other tips, I'll take 'em like I want 'em (which I do, so that was a rather dumb thing to say). Smile

IIRC I could run two clients fine (three if the third was on medium/low settings) before the Carbon UI. It was really after that point I started noticing a drop in performance.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#12 - 2012-01-15 19:22:04 UTC
One thing that CCP could do is check that when we turn the CQ off that all of it doesn't load, not just some hidden bits

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Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
OnlyFleets.
#13 - 2012-01-15 19:39:31 UTC
Disable anti-alias and I'm sure the choppyness will go away with two clients running.

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Bane Loppknow
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-01-15 19:50:30 UTC
More RAM never hurts, and its not terribly expensive.
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-01-15 20:49:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Kidd
Not another alt wrote:
Ultim8Evil wrote:
Might I suggest overclocking?


Do you think that will help noticeably? The graphics card has its own GUI for overclocking built into the control center, so it's not a lot of work to actually do it.


Overclocking isn't going to give you significant gains in performance unless you're willing to invest in the appropriate cooling hardware. For instance. if you have stock cooling on your case, gpu, cpu & chipset then even for air cooling you're going to spend over $100 cooling upgrades Good air cooling for cpu's run >$50. Add in a new gpu cooler and maybe chipset cooler now you're over the $100 mark. And you gotta think about airflow in your case. If you don't have it, you gotta invest in it because regardless how good your cpu & gpu cooling is, if that hot air stays in the case nothing is going to cool well. At that point you're more or less able to afford upgrading hardware these days.

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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-01-15 20:56:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
If your CPU has hyperthreading, set CPU Affinity in the task manager for one client to CPU0
and for the other to CPU2. If it doesn't, it doesn't matter which Core you assign a client too,
but it's anyway a good idea to give each client it's own core.

I actually do that even for only using a single client, simply because it helps performance,
which is unnoticable usually though.

And yeah, it's a good idea not to assign any program to one of the virtual cores,
which seem to always have odd numbers.
yer mammy
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-01-15 22:05:24 UTC  |  Edited by: yer mammy
i have a 4 core xeon processor from ~2007, 6gb of ram and a radeon 4870.

i run two clients at 1680x1050. shaders and texture are on high on both clients. i have shadows and anti-aliasing on low on the main screen, but those settings are off on the second screen. i also turn off HDR on both since it's overdone and ugly most of the time anyway. those 3 features probably create the biggest changes in frame rate when activated but the game still looks fine with them off.

i get 100+ fps on both screens.
muhadin
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-01-15 22:53:13 UTC
Besides anti-aliasing which is kinda useless, Shader Settings Is the main memory drain, when i run 2 clients i usually drop the shader so the clients run better, i can get like 25-30fps with shaders on high with 2 clients, or i can get 60fps with 2 clients with shaders on low.

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Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#19 - 2012-01-16 12:17:09 UTC
you can upgrade your ram or an an extra graphics card in sli.

Or you can switch off things like shadow or certain effects to medium.

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Tiberius Sunstealer
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-01-16 12:27:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiberius Sunstealer
Bane Loppknow wrote:
More RAM never hurts, and its not terribly expensive.

Ciar Meara wrote:
you can upgrade your ram

Confirmed for not knowing what you're talking about.
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