Player Features and Ideas Discussion

if you want better , use a noctise, or befriend someone with one

There are meta versions that, while do nothing different in terms of how they prioritize wrecks and are more expensive, have better stats including both tractor beam range and speeds. Other than that, just like any other of the by now hundreds of so-called QOL change request related to MTU's, the routine suggestion to use a Noctis if you want it faster or more efficient applies.

I know it might not seem like it, but MTU's -- even the cheap non-meta one -- are already good enough as is and don't really need to be improved. People seem to quickly forget that the sole fact that they are fully autonomous is a huge central advantage of MTU's, which in turn must be countered by making it their one and only advantage. Compared to the Noctis, for instance, they are quite well balanced at this point. Making them any better would make using the Noctis or other methods even less tempting or useful.

The quote: "Quality of Life" really gets thrown around a lot these days, and most people, like OP, misuse the word when the real quote they should be using is: I am too lazy, let me instant loot everything."

Yawn.

If only CCP would make players have to input spreadsheet formulas in order to loot with an MTU, then you guys would be happy.

The main problem with MTUs is that they aren't raid-able.

There ought to be a mechanism whereby someone can just fly up to it, and take the loot -- if you want it, you should be guarding it, or have someone else doing it.
Of course, in hi-sec this would be a red-flag offence, but so would be taking loot out of a wreck.

But I can simply open a wreck & take loot, & the MTU just aggregates wreck loot.

This is not just QOL, nor is it sane. Anything that makes it quicker, more automated and easier to loot reduces the value of loot and reduces the rewards of people doing it themselves with a noctis. For example, when the noctis was introduced, the price of loot fell because it looted faster than everything else. Then shortly after the mtu was released the value of loot fell again because looting became automated.

CCP will tell you themselves they don't want mtu's to be smart. Anyone crying about QOL improvements being shot down has lack of forsight and doesn't grasp competition in a free market.

It is, you just have to shoot it first. Shooting a MTU belonging to someone else has the same penalties as looting a wreck that belongs to someone else.

50k total HP with zero resists does not take a "Long Time" unless you're in a frigate. If you're in a frigate, bring a couple friends.

If you find a lone, abandoned MTU, what's a couple minutes to pop it and loot it. On the other hand, if it's not alone or abandoned, why should you be able to just drop in on it and loot it before the owner can move back to it to scoop it and the loot?

I don't think shooting it should be required. Just open it like any other can, or at worst hack it. You are right they don't take long to pop, but it should not even need that.