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LulKlz Duster
ChemiKals
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2016-05-09 13:50:21 UTC
Hello, I come from DUST514. It seems that skills are even more important in this game. What should be my first goal besides completing NPC missions? Should I mine? If so what would be the best things to skill into? Any advice would help
Johnathan Coffey
Niforce Triggers
#2 - 2016-05-09 14:06:40 UTC
It's all about what you want to do. There are no pre-made goals in EVE, you have to choose your goals for yourself and then train the skills you need to achieve these goals.

Since you come from DUST, I will assume that you are probably interested in PvP. If that is true you should probably first concentrate on small guns and frigate or destroyer skills. Pick a small, cheap ship that you like and train everything you need to fly it well. Then go out and lose a few dozen of them to actually learn how to PvP in EVE.

First rule of EVE UI: right click EVERYTHING.

LulKlz Duster
ChemiKals
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2016-05-09 14:45:14 UTC
Johnathan Coffey wrote:
It's all about what you want to do. There are no pre-made goals in EVE, you have to choose your goals for yourself and then train the skills you need to achieve these goals.

Since you come from DUST, I will assume that you are probably interested in PvP. If that is true you should probably first concentrate on small guns and frigate or destroyer skills. Pick a small, cheap ship that you like and train everything you need to fly it well. Then go out and lose a few dozen of them to actually learn how to PvP in EVE.

Thx
Francis Raven
ExDominion
Evictus.
#4 - 2016-05-09 15:35:44 UTC
Here are a couple "options" on things to do.

1) Exploration
Fit a T1 exploration frigate (Heron, Imicus, Probe, Magnate) with a Data Analyzer and a Relic Analyzer and do sites in highsec, lowsec, wormhole space and lowsec. Return on investment is huge. You can get lucky in highsec and net 30+ million ISK sites while only investing...what...5mill on the ship and mods?

2) Mining
Fit a venture with mining lasers and mine in highsec. I recommend you sell the ores as-is instead of reprocessing until you have reprocessing skills way up. You will lose ISK otherwise.

3) PVE
Fit a combat ship and do some security missions in highsec, or do ratting in nullsec.
HIGHSEC - Go Frigate/destroyer > Cruiser > Battlecruier > Battleship. For level 1, 2, 3, 4 security missions. Work on T2 tank skills (either shield or armor) then work on T2 guns, lastly work on the T2 ship skills.

NULLSEC - Join an nullsec corporation, then warp to a belt and kill the rats. Super easy isk. You can do this in a destroyer or larger. Consider upgrading to nullsec anomalies afterwards.

4) Manufacturing
This is fun. Make sure you calculate material costs, taxes, and output sell price to make sure you are profitable.

5) PVP
Killing enemies has very high risk as a new player, but you can make good money looting and salvaging player wrecks.

Feel free to hit me up in game if you have any questions.

ExDominion | Nullsec Corporation | Website | Forums | Established Nov. 2015 |

LulKlz Duster
ChemiKals
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2016-05-09 16:06:47 UTC
Francis Raven wrote:
Here are a couple "options" on things to do.

1) Exploration
Fit a T1 exploration frigate (Heron, Imicus, Probe, Magnate) with a Data Analyzer and a Relic Analyzer and do sites in highsec, lowsec, wormhole space and lowsec. Return on investment is huge. You can get lucky in highsec and net 30+ million ISK sites while only investing...what...5mill on the ship and mods?

2) Mining
Fit a venture with mining lasers and mine in highsec. I recommend you sell the ores as-is instead of reprocessing until you have reprocessing skills way up. You will lose ISK otherwise.

3) PVE
Fit a combat ship and do some security missions in highsec, or do ratting in nullsec.
HIGHSEC - Go Frigate/destroyer > Cruiser > Battlecruier > Battleship. For level 1, 2, 3, 4 security missions. Work on T2 tank skills (either shield or armor) then work on T2 guns, lastly work on the T2 ship skills.

NULLSEC - Join an nullsec corporation, then warp to a belt and kill the rats. Super easy isk. You can do this in a destroyer or larger. Consider upgrading to nullsec anomalies afterwards.

4) Manufacturing
This is fun. Make sure you calculate material costs, taxes, and output sell price to make sure you are profitable.

5) PVP
Killing enemies has very high risk as a new player, but you can make good money looting and salvaging player wrecks.

Feel free to hit me up in game if you have any questions.

Im probably going to be mining. Would it be better to get into a bigger ship or better lasers?
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
#6 - 2016-05-09 16:30:54 UTC
Welcome, fellow dust refugee, to the meat of it.

Myself and a couple of mates started with great plans to start a corp in eve expressly to fund our dust mercs.

Didnt work out that way, i got hooked and eventually became and actual mercenary in eve .

The most important thing i can say to you is , get involved , talk to people, make friends and enemies.
We are the content here so dont try to solo eve, its a remarkably poor single player game.
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2016-05-09 16:56:30 UTC
For now just play around with the game. Don't worry so much about your skills right now. Figure out what you like first then focus on that.

Want to talk? Join Cara's channel in game: House Forelli

Dani Gallar
Doomheim
#8 - 2016-05-09 17:26:51 UTC
ergherhdfgh wrote:
For now just play around with the game. Don't worry so much about your skills right now. Figure out what you like first then focus on that.


If unsure of what you want to do remeber that Engineering, Armor/Shields and Navigation skills are useful in any career since they buff every type of ship. Since you are new you will find that 'what you want to do' will probably change from week to week so it's better to start with skills from those categories.
Johnathan Coffey
Niforce Triggers
#9 - 2016-05-09 17:30:32 UTC
LulKlz Duster wrote:
Im probably going to be mining. Would it be better to get into a bigger ship or better lasers?


Trigger warning: mining becomes really boring really fast and does not make a lot of ISK unless you commit to running 5 accounts or more.

That said, if you want to do mining, there are industry corps out there that will teach you everything you need to know. And yes, you should aim for a Procurer and later for a Skiff, Hulk or Mackinaw.

First rule of EVE UI: right click EVERYTHING.

Francis Raven
ExDominion
Evictus.
#10 - 2016-05-09 17:35:51 UTC
Mining is fine.
If you want to mine, you need to upgrade to the bigger ships ASAP for most isk/hour benefit.

Start working your way towards barges and exhumers as soon as you can (ie Procurer/Skiff).

Then work your way to T2 Harvesters with Crystals to mine even more.


ExDominion | Nullsec Corporation | Website | Forums | Established Nov. 2015 |

Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#11 - 2016-05-09 20:57:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Iria Ahrens
Mining is fine, the problem with it is the skills don't translate to pvp very well.

Pvp players usually will concentrate on careers that utilize the pvp skills they would have to train anyway. Or some other career that is not skill intensive. Like scamming, trading, or hauling. Mining and production are skill intensive careers, just like missioning. So I don't recommend mining at all if you are interested in EVE for pvp.

Only mine if you LIKE mining.

My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.

Pandora Carrollon
Provi Rapid Response
Apocalypse Now.
#12 - 2016-05-09 22:52:06 UTC
While there's no direct correlation between the FPS of Dust and the mostly 3rd Person fighting in EVE, it is fun regardless.

You make your own excitement. It can be easy and slow, like mining. It can be fast and furious like LoSec PVP. If you get into a Null Sec corporation, you can do both relatively easily without much fuss.

Exploration is about the hardest job in the game as it takes a little of all the skills in the game from fighting, to hauling, to trading and a good noggin' to deal with the mini-game while watching your scopes for predators.

It's really hard to say what you'll like best so the career agents are where we point most people, however, if you already like that in your face beating on someone, head to LoSec, lose a few Rookie Ships, find a good corp to take you under their wing, they'll usually give you a decent ship, and then train you in the boot camp from Hades.

Welcome to EVE... your 60 minutes of actually being on your first clone start.... now.
Jackson Polari
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2016-05-10 00:33:48 UTC
I started out mining and then went on to doing security missions. It works for me, but like everyone else said, it's up to you. Exploring can be great fun, you get to enjoy the view while making a lot of ISK if you score good. Ratting is also fun if you have the right ship.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2016-05-10 01:51:18 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Dani Gallar wrote:
ergherhdfgh wrote:
For now just play around with the game. Don't worry so much about your skills right now. Figure out what you like first then focus on that.


If unsure of what you want to do remeber that Engineering, Armor/Shields and Navigation skills are useful in any career since they buff every type of ship. Since you are new you will find that 'what you want to do' will probably change from week to week so it's better to start with skills from those categories.

Hello DUST Brother and welcome to Eve.

Training up the Core Fitting skills will help you a lot. That will allow you to easily fit up ships which in turn allows you to enjoy the game.

*Core Fitting Skills*

Acceleration Control - To maximize Afterburner & MWD speed.
Advanced Weapon Upgrades - To reduce turrets and launchers powergrid need.
Afterburner - To reduce Afterburner duration & capacitor need.
Capacitor Management - To maximize Capacitor.
Capacitor Systems Operation - To maximize capacitor recharge rate.
CPU Management - To maximize CPU.
Electronics Upgrades - To reduce sensors & co-processors CPU requirements.
Energy Grid Upgrades - To reduce power modules CPU requirements.
Evasive Maneuvering - To increase acceleration & agility.
Fuel Conservation - To reduce Afterburner capacitor need.
High Speed Maneuvering - To reduce MWD capacitor need.
Hull Upgrades - To maximize armor.
Mechanics - To maximize structure.
Navigation - To increase ship velocity.
Power Grid Management - To maximize powergrid.
Repair Systems - To operate best armor/hull repair modules.
Shield Management - To maximize shield.
Shield Operation - To maximize shield recharge rate.
Shield Upgrades - To reduce shield upgrades powergrid need.
Spaceship Command - To increase ship agility.
Warp Drive Operation - To reduce capacitor need for warp.
Weapon Upgrades - To reduce turrets and launchers CPU need.

These are listed in alphabetical order only, which skill to train first depends on your needs.

I suggest taking them up to level 3 to start, then work on maxing them asap. Don't forget to include the other main / support skills such as specific ship, defense, offense and career oriented skills. Don't just queue up one skill to train multiple levels, queue up multiple skills to train up one level each, that way you'll be able to easily play the game much sooner.

Good luck to you, may you have a long and rewarding career here.


DMC
Zathra Narazi
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2016-05-10 11:20:58 UTC
LulKlz Duster wrote:
Hello, I come from DUST514. It seems that skills are even more important in this game. What should be my first goal besides completing NPC missions? Should I mine? If so what would be the best things to skill into? Any advice would help

Mining in Eve is literally the most boring thing ever to exist in any video game. Drones V, CPU management, power grid management, capacitor management and capacitor systems operation are good skills to raise ASAP.
Drake Valteric
Nightfall Syndicate Incorporated
#16 - 2016-05-10 12:05:15 UTC
Mining I can definitely see as a "make or break" your gaming experience. Personally, I've enjoyed the boorish tasks of planning, setting up, and then executing corporation mining tasks and staying content. I think the best option for you would be to take a dab at everything that Eve has to offer, go to youtube and venture for yourself some gameplay footage and decide what's best for you to start your training path on.

Being fairly new to Eve, I would take DeMichael Crimson's post to heart, definitely a good list to knock out for the first month or so in-game.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2016-05-10 12:25:50 UTC
Jackson Polari wrote:
I started out mining and then went on to doing security missions. It works for me, but like everyone else said, it's up to you. Exploring can be great fun, you get to enjoy the view while making a lot of ISK if you score good. Ratting is also fun if you have the right ship.

This is pretty much what I did and what I still do.

I always see a lot of people saying go do PvP, join a Player Corp, go to Null Sec, etc. Well I'm here to tell you there's a lot more to this game than just that and you don't have to do any of that if you don't want to..

However Drake Valteric has some really good advice, especially this :
Quote:
I think the best option for you would be to take a dab at everything that Eve has to offer, go to youtube and venture for yourself some gameplay footage and decide what's best for you to start your training path on.



DMC
LulKlz Duster
ChemiKals
Goonswarm Federation
#18 - 2016-05-10 15:30:51 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Dani Gallar wrote:
ergherhdfgh wrote:
For now just play around with the game. Don't worry so much about your skills right now. Figure out what you like first then focus on that.


If unsure of what you want to do remeber that Engineering, Armor/Shields and Navigation skills are useful in any career since they buff every type of ship. Since you are new you will find that 'what you want to do' will probably change from week to week so it's better to start with skills from those categories.

Hello DUST Brother and welcome to Eve.

Training up the Core Fitting skills will help you a lot. That will allow you to easily fit up ships which in turn allows you to enjoy the game.

*Core Fitting Skills*

Acceleration Control - To maximize Afterburner & MWD speed.
Advanced Weapon Upgrades - To reduce turrets and launchers powergrid need.
Afterburner - To reduce Afterburner duration & capacitor need.
Capacitor Management - To maximize Capacitor.
Capacitor Systems Operation - To maximize capacitor recharge rate.
CPU Management - To maximize CPU.
Electronics Upgrades - To reduce sensors & co-processors CPU requirements.
Energy Grid Upgrades - To reduce power modules CPU requirements.
Evasive Maneuvering - To increase acceleration & agility.
Fuel Conservation - To reduce Afterburner capacitor need.
High Speed Maneuvering - To reduce MWD capacitor need.
Hull Upgrades - To maximize armor.
Mechanics - To maximize structure.
Navigation - To increase ship velocity.
Power Grid Management - To maximize powergrid.
Repair Systems - To operate best armor/hull repair modules.
Shield Management - To maximize shield.
Shield Operation - To maximize shield recharge rate.
Shield Upgrades - To reduce shield upgrades powergrid need.
Spaceship Command - To increase ship agility.
Warp Drive Operation - To reduce capacitor need for warp.
Weapon Upgrades - To reduce turrets and launchers CPU need.

These are listed in alphabetical order only, which skill to train first depends on your needs.

I suggest taking them up to level 3 to start, then work on maxing them asap. Don't forget to include the other main / support skills such as specific ship, defense, offense and career oriented skills. Don't just queue up one skill to train multiple levels, queue up multiple skills to train up one level each, that way you'll be able to easily play the game much sooner.

Good luck to you, may you have a long and rewarding career here.


DMC

This is REALLY helpful. Thank you