EVE General Discussion

No, because there is no competition player discontent doesn't actually matter unless it's extreme because the chance of players quitting over it is extremely low since they're already heavily invested and there is no alternative to switch to.

I'm not saying that CCP putting out barely functional, unfinished updates riddled with game breaking bugs is good, it's just there's no particular reason why they would stop doing it.

You being temporarily upset about a bad patch does nothing.

Well, CCP doesn't have unlimited resources and time in which to accomplish that as many of the other MMO publishers have.

So it takes a huge sweat shop in some far off land and only needs to be ready in two decades, its not like they need any revenue to maintain that effort.

Mr deep pockets Mc Dickerson will make sure it happens.

And here I was wondering myself, what whining for the sake of whining was like... and lo' and behold, a treasure is found.

Patch days suck, bugs suck, new content doesn't. Stop being a git about it.

CCP devs are doing the same we all do, learning by doing

“I hope I remember everything," said Toni.
"You won't," said Trapp. "That's how you learn.
But after you make the same mistake one, or two, or five times,
you'll eventually get it.
And then you'll make new mistakes.”
Louis Sachar, The Cardturner: A Novel about a King, a Queen, and a Joker

bad times for ccp and they really need people resubbing.

pushing a non-finished and badly working product while heavily promoting it is the way to go. Skill trading and bringing the requirements down so that any 3 weeks character can use a very good ship did not do that trick, so they employ chinese company tactics now and sell untested products.

look at the plex prices. They went down 25% because of people buying with RL money and investing in what they think it is a good alternative to POSes - which is not.

the problem is that, after they will see their shiny citadels blown to bits by a fleet of just 4-5 battleships ( a fleet that could not even scratch a pos ), they will leave the game and not make the mistake of buying a sub again. So in the long run is a loss for ccp.

Why, thank you

The features that have gone live with the release are pretty significant and worth getting in now, especially asset safety, supercap tethering and markets. The ACL is a wholly new feature and addresses long term complaints with standings/role management at a corp level without having to do a corp role revamp. It probably is fair to say the implementation will take the rest of the year, but since outposts and POS aren't going away [in the short term] having these new features alongside the existing stuff strikes me as a useful way to do the change over.

Also I think a lot of indy types who use structures for research/manu and moon mining are waiting for the next batches of structures rather than cits. These are really somewhere inbetween POS and outposts and have appeal to corps and alliances as strategic platforms, so people shouldn't be too disappointed if they don't fit with their existing playstyle. They're not really meant to, or aim to create new ones we haven't seen.


On the flipside PVPers have been complaining about a lack of things to fight over for a while. For those who want to fight either offensively or defensively these have a huge draw. Also the initial burst of massacring Ms across the game is likely to settle down once they proliferate and other sized cits are launched. Some patience is probably required to see how things go - if people resub then cancel within weeks that's their loss and they'll miss how the dynamic plays out. Plenty will resub for the combat incentives.

The citadels that have exploded have mostly been the ones caught in the 15 minute timer after anchoring. There are plenty of citadels that are up without being exploded.

Perhaps people expected their citadel to be able to solo a fleet, but I am not sure quite why they expected that.

Plex prices went down for a number of reasons, the largest of which is people liquidating plex they had in their hangars to get the BPOs and skillbooks, also for people buying injectors.

Additionally, plex has not gone down by 25%.

They were at 990 when the patch hit. 25% drop would be 742m. They have dropped to 930 as a low, and are hovering around 940-950.

A fleet of Enyo's took out an Austrahaus (?sp) a couple of days ago.

Who says assault frigates need rebalancing. They can assault a large Citadel ok.

They may release stuff bugged, but at least they patch it on a regular basis. Seems like every other day I log in there is a patch downloaded. A lot of games now days release content with game breaking bugs and it's several months before there is a patch.