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People Whining about Titan Tracking

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Leysritt
The Last Remnant
#1 - 2012-01-14 01:10:21 UTC
Recently people have been whining about how Titans can hit subcaps when they are webbed and painted or when they're sitting far away to negate angular velocity.

Its called TEAMWORK, you should be rewarded when you have people performing different tasks to achieve a goal. This is an MMO game, if you want to succeed you play as a group.

If you're dumb enough to sit still and let a titan lock and shoot you, then you need to learn2fly and stop bitching.

Titans have already been nerfed so that remote sensor and tracking links don't work, there is no further need to nerf it.

Tracking Titans do not have as much tank as a standard titan fit, therefore are easier to kill.

You should stop whining like little carebears and figure out how to properly counter, e.g. use ECM to jam webbing/painting ships.

Use Afterburner ships to reduce hit chance, there is an orbit function in this game for a reason.

I highly encourage CCP to not listen to these whiners and leave Titans as they are.

Whiners should HTFU or GTFO.
URDEAD2ME
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#2 - 2012-01-14 01:19:55 UTC
there has been plenty of talk of this already but it some cases its not people being webbed painted and standing still i seen a titan pop a tengu that was afterburning with transversal and still got popped ... so there is some issue maybe at times with the tracking but its not as bad as people make out.

One thing tho ccp always wanted titans to be sort of escorted by other classes of ships so using a titan on its own or maybe 2 or 3 with a very very small support group seems strange and maybe the tracking is a bit off.
Leysritt
The Last Remnant
#3 - 2012-01-14 01:21:57 UTC
URDEAD2ME wrote:
there has been plenty of talk of this already but it some cases its not people being webbed painted and standing still i seen a titan pop a tengu that was afterburning with transversal and still got popped ... so there is some issue maybe at times with the tracking but its not as bad as people make out.

One thing tho ccp always wanted titans to be sort of escorted by other classes of ships so using a titan on its own or maybe 2 or 3 with a very very small support group seems strange and maybe the tracking is a bit off.


A tengu would have to be orbiting a long distance to be easily hit without web or paint, so I would say it is pilot error, not the ships or weapons.
Rixiu
PonyTek
#4 - 2012-01-14 01:26:30 UTC
Leysritt wrote:
URDEAD2ME wrote:
there has been plenty of talk of this already but it some cases its not people being webbed painted and standing still i seen a titan pop a tengu that was afterburning with transversal and still got popped ... so there is some issue maybe at times with the tracking but its not as bad as people make out.

One thing tho ccp always wanted titans to be sort of escorted by other classes of ships so using a titan on its own or maybe 2 or 3 with a very very small support group seems strange and maybe the tracking is a bit off.


A tengu would have to be orbiting a long distance to be easily hit without web or paint, so I would say it is pilot error, not the ships or weapons.


That range would be "outside web range", are you suggesting that Tengus should be orbiting inside web range? Sounds like an excellent idea, why hasn't anyone thought of that before you?
Il Feytid
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-01-14 01:33:50 UTC
Titan tears, best tears! Keep them coming please.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#6 - 2012-01-14 01:40:27 UTC
Leysritt wrote:
Recently people have been whining about how Titans can hit subcaps when they are webbed and painted or when they're sitting far away to negate angular velocity.


Recently, NCdot and PL alts have been coming to the forums to beg on their bended knees for their winmobiles not to be nerfed.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
#7 - 2012-01-14 01:40:35 UTC
*yawn*

Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2012-01-14 01:59:54 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Leysritt wrote:
Recently people have been whining about how Titans can hit subcaps when they are webbed and painted or when they're sitting far away to negate angular velocity.


Recently, NCdot and PL alts have been coming to the forums to beg on their bended knees for their winmobiles not to be nerfed.



Its pretty funny, the Russians don't cry as much as you do when fighting them, they seem to enjoy it.

In a year of fighting we've not found somebody as brave as they are when it comes to EVE fighting, the rest of you cry like girls, they just engage and work it out.

They cause 20 billion in damage to us in 1 fight while facing 30 turrent titans.


Maybe if you got off your ass and tried for once without constantly being worried about if your pretty ship exploded you might get something done.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
Il Feytid
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-01-14 03:49:05 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
Its pretty funny, the Russians don't cry as much as you do when fighting them, they seem to enjoy it.

In a year of fighting we've not found somebody as brave as they are when it comes to EVE fighting, the rest of you cry like girls, they just engage and work it out.

They cause 20 billion in damage to us in 1 fight while facing 30 turrent titans.


Maybe if you got off your ass and tried for once without constantly being worried about if your pretty ship exploded you might get something done.


That is nice. Would you still fly them balls out like you do now if they had a permanent tracking speed bonus of -50% and explosion velocity bonus of -60%, just like a dread does while in siege mode?
mkint
#10 - 2012-01-14 03:57:59 UTC
hahahaha

hahahhahahaha

Hahahahhaha


Op... you so funny

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.
Surge Roth
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-01-14 04:26:02 UTC
URDEAD2ME wrote:
there has been plenty of talk of this already but it some cases its not people being webbed painted and standing still i seen a titan pop a tengu that was afterburning with transversal and still got popped ... so there is some issue maybe at times with the tracking but its not as bad as people make out.

One thing tho ccp always wanted titans to be sort of escorted by other classes of ships so using a titan on its own or maybe 2 or 3 with a very very small support group seems strange and maybe the tracking is a bit off.


Maybe that tengu you saw had his signature radius blown up by shield extenders?
Surge Roth
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-01-14 04:31:13 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
Grath Telkin wrote:
Its pretty funny, the Russians don't cry as much as you do when fighting them, they seem to enjoy it.

In a year of fighting we've not found somebody as brave as they are when it comes to EVE fighting, the rest of you cry like girls, they just engage and work it out.

They cause 20 billion in damage to us in 1 fight while facing 30 turrent titans.


Maybe if you got off your ass and tried for once without constantly being worried about if your pretty ship exploded you might get something done.


That is nice. Would you still fly them balls out like you do now if they had a permanent tracking speed bonus of -50% and explosion velocity bonus of -60%, just like a dread does while in siege mode?


No, he's right. You're wrong. In fact, I believe the hp nerf that we had wasn't justified at all. They take time to get into and properly fly. They require tremendous effort to built and is essentially an alliance asset. It made no sense why they did what they did. I just hope this wont be a continuing trend with CCP where they actually listen to failures.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-01-14 13:07:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
Surge Roth wrote:
No, he's right. You're wrong. In fact, I believe the hp nerf that we had wasn't justified at all. They take time to get into and properly fly.


As long as it takes for your bots to make you the ISK needed to buy a pilot, hull, fittings and implants?

Surge Roth wrote:
They require tremendous effort to built and is essentially an alliance asset. It made no sense why they did what they did. I just hope this wont be a continuing trend with CCP where they actually listen to failures.


That's just nonsense. They don't require "tremendous effort" to build - the most work involved is running a freighter around in a cynojammed system. One guy can with a few alts can build titans in his spare time.

Ask yourself, when CCP introduced titans, did they think that this would happen?

Keep up the bleating though, it's entertaining!

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#14 - 2012-01-14 13:16:39 UTC
This again.... rly...

Fix titan tracking.... by deleting sub caps from eve.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
Tore Vest
#15 - 2012-01-14 14:25:18 UTC
Waah-waaah... That titan popped my hurricane... waaah waah...
I burned strait towards that titan and he popped me.... waaaaaaaah...

Learn to play eve... Bear

No troll.
Valei Khurelem
#16 - 2012-01-14 14:27:38 UTC
gankers getting ganked by other gankers gives me sexual release.

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#17 - 2012-01-14 14:45:47 UTC
Alliances with huge titan fleets saying titans are not in any way overpowered

nbs

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Caldari Citizen 786478786
#18 - 2012-01-14 14:51:57 UTC
URDEAD2ME wrote:
i seen a titan pop a tengu that was afterburning with transversal and still got popped...


Surely, there's a kill mail forthcoming with some proof of this wildly wild claim. Surely?
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2012-01-14 14:54:01 UTC
Yeah, let's listen to every ****** who hides behind a forum alt ...
Hemmo Paskiainen
#20 - 2012-01-14 17:09:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Hemmo Paskiainen
Caldari Citizen 786478786 wrote:
URDEAD2ME wrote:
i seen a titan pop a tengu that was afterburning with transversal and still got popped...


Surely, there's a kill mail forthcoming with some proof of this wildly wild claim.

http://a-killed.me/?a=kill_related&kll_id=588390
im sure all these dictrrs were srationary and not moving at all. fact is that tracking titan can kill mwd and ab ligt dictors, just simpy lock them and cycle guns. it is impossible to kill lone titans when they have a tracking fit with them and you dont have they dps to kill it in 2-3 minuts... titans are solo pwn ships

If relativity equals time plus momentum, what equals relativity, if the momentum is minus to the time?
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