Market Discussions

I could never understand the mindset of players who sell to buy orders when there is a large marginal difference between the sell and buy order. I dont think it has to do with a urgency for a quick intake of isk with some of them as i've seen a few where people have thrown away large sums of isk just on selling to buy orders, where as a little patience would of netted them more profit.


have any of you ever had this done and spoke to the person who sold it?

Do I want to spend an hour sorting through this hangar junk?

Nope!

...and it's gone.

Fortunately, one man's junk really is another man's treasure.

Not if I can spend that 5 minutes making 200m instead.

Or doing something else, other than watching orders. Maybe something that is more important to me.

Not everyone is going to care about that 100m to the same degree that you do and many will not even be aware that the 100m is on the table in the first place.

its not really about them selling in general its more about the amount they throw away due to selling when comparing the sales price to the buy order price and the thoughts behind it.

Also auction houses arent that bad as long as they are set up correctly with good search function, as they are a lot better compared to the old ro1 and sots user stalls. in addition, wow wasnt the first and wont be the last to have auction houses as a means of player sales.

I always check the spread with eve praisel, then pick those which are worth setting up a sell order, multi-sell the rest to buy orders.

It is hard to understand if it is not something that is part of your mindset.

Consider this as an example: I am a person who does a lot of missions only, collecting the drops along the way and have no interest in how the market works. I only care about getting the next shinney ship, that next officer module to bling out my ship etc. So when i have collected enough, i just open the Markets Tab, find my item and sell to what ever buyer there is, so that i can fund my next and future missions. As i get the required isk i need for my goal, then i don't worry about what extra i may have missed out on.

The beauty of the sandbox to have all different playing styles that suit each person individually, so that they enjoy what they do within the game.

I tend to do this quite often.

I make high end reaction products at a lower price than most others (I know this because I make huge profits selling to buy orders)

But I have little liquid isk on my industry account. If I don't sell to buy orders and instead put up a sell order, I won't have the ISK that I need IMMIDIATELY to buy the inputs to keep my reactions running. I would rather give up a few hundred mllion ISK profit and keep making my billions rather than than have my production freeze up .

You might argue that I should keep a few billion spare as buffer.

But whenever I have a few billion to spare I buy capital ships and whelp them.

EDIT: My favourite move is when there aren't enough buy orders to buy my output profitably. Then I put a whole load of product on a sell order that''s just 0.01 ISK above the buy order price.

I then see all the 0.01 ISK warriors buying one unit of my product to see who I am. Occasionally, wardecs on my industry alt corp follow...

PSA: Don't forget to set your sell to "immediate" when selling to a buy order otherwise you eat broker fee which is now 2.5% to 3%.

To many pvp'ers it's easier to just quick sell to get back to the action. Personally, I just like to quick sell loot and such instead of waiting for the isk to come in and dealing with 0.01'ers.

There are several reasons/combination of reasons to do this.

1.) Buy orders represent sufficient/target margin with the purchase of raw materials/build costs.
2.) A large disparity between mark up and buy can be a product of high demand or low demand.
3.) With low demand products, high mark up margins do not signal realized profits. That is just "hope".
Hope is not a market strategy.
4.) Forecast downturn in input costs.
5.) Opportunity costs associated with playing the 1 isk game too high.
6.) Free up trapped liquidity.
7.) Input compression

There are probably several other reasons, but these are some of the top ones.