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AFK Cloaky alts

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Nieme
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2016-05-05 17:13:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Nieme
As there is a thread about this entire subject, I'll read up on the subject there and make further posts. Wish there was a delete button somewhere but either I'm blind or that is another feature request.
Ashlar Maidstone
MoonFyre BattleGroup Holdings
#2 - 2016-05-05 17:23:37 UTC
Oh geeesh, NOT this again, another poor stealthy complaint by an NPC school alt becuz we can be afk all day long and not bother you unless we darn well feel like it. Your idea has no merit, so......no.
Nieme
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2016-05-05 17:26:06 UTC
Ashlar Maidstone wrote:
Oh geeesh, NOT this again, another poor stealthy complaint by an NPC school alt becuz we can be afk all day long and not bother you unless we darn well feel like it. Your idea has no merit, so......no.


Yeah lets all just buy 10 accounts each so we can leave alts all over the galaxy
Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners
Already Replaced.
#4 - 2016-05-05 17:29:07 UTC
Nieme wrote:
Hello,
I just wanted to complain about the horrible game mechanic that is known as "afk cloaky compers".

If you are new to the game or dont know what I'm referring to, then this is a short explanation:
In 0.0 systems it is common that people leave cyno equipped cloaked alts that they leave AFK in systems for days, weeks, months. They just leave them logged on while doing basically nothing on the characters.

This makes it hard for people to be active in systems mine/rat/etc because every now and then they actually check their alt and take them out to drop on something.

While it should be appropriate risk/reward in 0.0, punishing people yet again who actively want to play or do something by letting other people be afk in systems for weeks is not a good mechanic.

I have of course a suggestion that could solve this in a good way without doing anything dramatic against cloaking modules.
A module that is attachable on citadels, which damages cloaking devices 1% every minute they are activated within the solar system. So if you want to camp systems, its still possible as 1% every minute lets you be cloaked for pretty damn long; but still makes you vulnerable every now and then (to repair the module etc). The module is damaged by 1% as soon as you activate the device so you can't "game" the system. It should also be attachable to any size Citadel and will damage both allied and enemy cloaking devices alike.



It's always funny when someone complains about afk cloakers while posting from a "forum cloaker" aka npc alt. I doubt anyone is cloaking up in Seibestor space lol

This is where your nonsense needs to be posted.
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
#5 - 2016-05-05 17:31:40 UTC
AFK means AWAY from keyboard.... how can you be afraid to somebody that is AWAY and NOT playing?!

Just Add Water

PrivateEye
Lucky Few
#6 - 2016-05-05 17:33:54 UTC
Nieme wrote:
Ashlar Maidstone wrote:
Oh geeesh, NOT this again, another poor stealthy complaint by an NPC school alt becuz we can be afk all day long and not bother you unless we darn well feel like it. Your idea has no merit, so......no.


Yeah lets all just buy 10 accounts each so we can leave alts all over the galaxy


Only 10? LOL NOOB!

There's a guy cloaky camping in Drone Lands with 40 alts!
Nieme
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2016-05-05 17:36:57 UTC
Nat Silverguard wrote:
AFK means AWAY from keyboard.... how can you be afraid to somebody that is AWAY and NOT playing?!


Because of ****** mechanics
Nieme
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2016-05-05 17:39:05 UTC
Quote:
It's always funny when someone complains about afk cloakers while posting from a "forum cloaker" aka npc alt. I doubt anyone is cloaking up in Seibestor space lol

This is where your nonsense needs to be posted.



Lets not pretend to be clever here, we all know what would happen if I complained about something like this with my main, I barely even rat anyway so its not much of a problem for me just a general annoyance.

Also, I didnt know there was a big thread about hte subject, how do I delete this post?
Pandora Carrollon
Provi Rapid Response
Apocalypse Now.
#9 - 2016-05-05 17:39:25 UTC
I think if your paranoia is to the level of not doing something in a system because that 1 other person in system is causing your heart to go into palpitations, then you need to find something else to do.

I suggest you:

• Turn up your "Warp volume" in the audio options so that anyone warping in nearby is heard before they are even on your scopes. Immediately hit your Dscan if they don't show up immediately.

• Either stay aligned to an exit or stay at max velocity when doing your 'thing'.

• Use the smallest, cheapest, ship that is capable of doing whatever it is you do. You'll miss it less if you lose it.

• Play the game alertly. If you start to fade, dock up, deal with yourself relax a moment, then undock and hit it again refreshed.

• Last but actually rule #1: Don't fly what you can't afford to lose.

If you do the above, whomever else is in system shouldn't bug you. You just up your alertness level.
Fuujin
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#10 - 2016-05-05 17:41:38 UTC
Oh my sweet summer child, you're almost adorable.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#11 - 2016-05-05 17:52:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Dev Blog: Back Into The Structure wrote:
E. Observatory arrays

Dedicated to intelligence gathering.

Service module possibilities: Being able to increase, decrease or block Star Map filters in the solar systems they’re deployed, act as solar system wide D-scan blockers, disrupt ship intelligence in the solar system, take over player tracking capabilities from NPC agents or be able to affect or pinpoint cloak users. We are considering basing their effectiveness through a network coverage (like cell phones) so that a single one may not be that useful, but maintaining a bunch of them in space could give a significant advantage.

Rigs possibilities: anything affecting the duration or effectiveness of what’s mentioned above.

https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/back-into-the-structure/
Nieme
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2016-05-05 17:56:18 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Dev Blog: Back Into The Structure wrote:
E. Observatory arrays

Dedicated to intelligence gathering.

Service module possibilities: Being able to increase, decrease or block Star Map filters in the solar systems they’re deployed, act as solar system wide D-scan blockers, disrupt ship intelligence in the solar system, take over player tracking capabilities from NPC agents or be able to affect or pinpoint cloak users. We are considering basing their effectiveness through a network coverage (like cell phones) so that a single one may not be that useful, but maintaining a bunch of them in space could give a significant advantage.

Rigs possibilities: anything affecting the duration or effectiveness of what’s mentioned above.

https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/back-into-the-structure/


Sweet! Thanks.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#13 - 2016-05-05 18:01:19 UTC
The two confluences of pathos - AFK cloaker whine and NPC posting alt cowardice - meet to produce an unholy and rather smelly **** baby.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Chewytowel Haklar
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2016-05-05 18:29:19 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
The two confluences of pathos - AFK cloaker whine and NPC posting alt cowardice - meet to produce an unholy and rather smelly **** baby.


You know, it's people like you that actually ruin the game. You spread your terrible attitudes, troll, and act incredibly self involved and honestly do nothing more then to push people away from the game. I suppose that is what some of you want isn't it? If we aren't part of your cute little elitist club we just aren't entitled to be in your special little game are we?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#15 - 2016-05-05 18:40:39 UTC
You can have my cloak when you lose your local.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#16 - 2016-05-05 18:50:54 UTC
Chewytowel Haklar wrote:


You know, it's people like you that actually ruin the game. You spread your terrible attitudes, troll, and act incredibly self involved and honestly do nothing more then to push people away from the game. I suppose that is what some of you want isn't it? If we aren't part of your cute little elitist club we just aren't entitled to be in your special little game are we?




Please point out exactly what elitist club it is that I apparently have membership with, as I for one would dearly like to know. If, by that remark, you are commenting on my NPC alt comment, then am I correct in assuming that the elite club of which you speak is comprised of 10K ISK and a crappy lvl1 skill?


Is this not supposed to be a game of consequences? What about the 'Butterfly Effect' trailer from a few years ago (which was awesome)? Where are the consequences if one produces nonsense (sometimes just that, nonsense, but occasionally quite serious), yet cannot be served righteous justice in game? With no attachments or references to one's reputation, the forums would be filled with NPC alts extruding all sorts of crap.

The fact is, the AFK cloaking whines are endless and it would appear that CCP agrees with this position, as any new ones that crop up are generally locked pretty sharpish by the mods. I would wager that they do this because they recognise them for what they are: meaningless rants that contribute nothing to the general discourse of the game.

I suspect that, if my sometimes off-topic and irreverent posting is upsetting you and ruining this game for you, you may have bigger problems on the horizon.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Xair Nuitarius
BAND of MAGNUS
#17 - 2016-05-05 18:51:35 UTC
I like this idea. It will be nice have some module that damages activated modules in system.
But as trade of we need another passive module. If this module is fitted on ship this ship doesn't apear on lacal.
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
#18 - 2016-05-05 18:55:55 UTC
Nieme wrote:
Nat Silverguard wrote:
AFK means AWAY from keyboard.... how can you be afraid to somebody that is AWAY and NOT playing?!


Because of ****** mechanics


which mechanics?!

Just Add Water

Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#19 - 2016-05-05 18:57:57 UTC
Nat Silverguard wrote:
Nieme wrote:
Nat Silverguard wrote:
AFK means AWAY from keyboard.... how can you be afraid to somebody that is AWAY and NOT playing?!


Because of ****** mechanics


which mechanics?!



The ****** ones...you know, the ones that have a three hour lunch break at the pub, etc etc :)

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Chewytowel Haklar
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2016-05-05 19:17:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Chewytowel Haklar
Bumblefck wrote:
Chewytowel Haklar wrote:


You know, it's people like you that actually ruin the game. You spread your terrible attitudes, troll, and act incredibly self involved and honestly do nothing more then to push people away from the game. I suppose that is what some of you want isn't it? If we aren't part of your cute little elitist club we just aren't entitled to be in your special little game are we?




Please point out exactly what elitist club it is that I apparently have membership with, as I for one would dearly like to know. If, by that remark, you are commenting on my NPC alt comment, then am I correct in assuming that the elite club of which you speak is comprised of 10K ISK and a crappy lvl1 skill?


Is this not supposed to be a game of consequences? What about the 'Butterfly Effect' trailer from a few years ago (which was awesome)? Where are the consequences if one produces nonsense (sometimes just that, nonsense, but occasionally quite serious), yet cannot be served righteous justice in game? With no attachments or references to one's reputation, the forums would be filled with NPC alts extruding all sorts of crap.

The fact is, the AFK cloaking whines are endless and it would appear that CCP agrees with this position, as any new ones that crop up are generally locked pretty sharpish by the mods. I would wager that they do this because they recognise them for what they are: meaningless rants that contribute nothing to the general discourse of the game.

I suspect that, if my sometimes off-topic and irreverent posting is upsetting you and ruining this game for you, you may have bigger problems on the horizon.


You have a really interesting way of defending your poor behavior. I believe you filled your post with so many twists and turns I had a hard time keeping track. And apparently they are responding to these concerns with the option to possibly locate these cloaky campers with many different structures put up around a system. I assure you the butterfly effect will still exist regardless even if you remove everyone you deem unworthy of your precious little club.
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