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Cheytac Skor
Cheytac Command and Control
#1 - 2016-05-05 16:27:04 UTC
Looking for a loan to purchase 6 skill injectors to make a few cyno alts. I offer a rorqual fully fit with a few barges in the hold sitting in a low sec 1 jump from High Sec. I will take the injectors or the isk to buy them and give you the rorqual. I will take any reasonable terms
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#2 - 2016-05-05 16:50:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Elizabeth Norn
It would have to be packed to the rafters with barges to be worth the ~3.6b ISK you're asking for, if you private contract it to yourself, you'll be able to copy the contents to www.evepraisal.com. Taking a loan for skill injectors to make cyno alts also means you won't be able to easily liquidate and return the investment in the event something goes wrong. You also didn't mention how long it'd take you to repay the loan.

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Cheytac Skor
Cheytac Command and Control
#3 - 2016-05-05 17:08:08 UTC
Elizabeth Norn wrote:
It would have to be packed to the rafters with barges to be worth the ~3.6b ISK you're asking for, if you private contract it to yourself, you'll be able to copy the contents to www.evepraisal.com. Taking a loan skill injectors to make cyno alts also means you won't be able to easily liquidate and return the investment in the event something goes wrong. You also didn't mention how long it'd take you to repay the loan.

Check some other loans/bonds so you know what to expect and can supply the relevant info any potential investor would like to know.



http://www.evepraisal.com/e/10630604 for estimates

I would also say 30 days. I do need a few things in the rorqual so I am playing its value around 3.5b CONCORD Capital Armor Repairer and Prototype Jump Drive Economizer will not be included in the collateral.
lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#4 - 2016-05-05 19:01:56 UTC
Why do you require skill injectors to make cyno alts? The train is less than 50k SP..
What do you require 6 cyno alts for?
How will you be making the ISK back, cyno alts aren't really known as good investment opportunities...
How much money will I be getting back?
How long will this loan last?
What even is the loan amount? You said 6 injectors, how much of your own ISK will go towards your goal (at current prices) of 3600m ISK?

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Cheytac Skor
Cheytac Command and Control
#5 - 2016-05-05 19:13:24 UTC
lanyaie wrote:
Why do you require skill injectors to make cyno alts? The train is less than 50k SP..
What do you require 6 cyno alts for?
How will you be making the ISK back, cyno alts aren't really known as good investment opportunities...
How much money will I be getting back?
How long will this loan last?
What even is the loan amount? You said 6 injectors, how much of your own ISK will go towards your goal (at current prices) of 3600m ISK?



The path I have to transverse is quite far and multiple locations this the need for 6 alts.
I own the jfer, that's 8b, I have approx 15b in cargo to be seeded in various markets throughout null and low sec. For me to train that set of skills means I have to pause many other toons on very long training times.
Amount back would depend on the rate you want. I am openly considering rates. 30 days or less, and as stated I will take just the injectors or sum needed to buy said injectors.
lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#6 - 2016-05-05 19:35:19 UTC
Cheytac Skor wrote:




  1. The path I have to transverse is quite far and multiple locations this the need I own the jfer, that's 8b, I have approx 15b in cargo to be seeded in various markets throughout null and low sec. for 6 alts.
  2. For me to train that set of skills means I have to pause many other toons on very long training times.



Why do you specifically require 6 cyno characters? Wouldn't 1or 2 be enough especially with jump fatigue being a thing? Additionally, 6 alts is 2 accounts - are you willing to pay 2 plexes to keep those accounts active?

One skill injector is 500k SP on a brand new character. The skills needed for cyno alts take 4days to train on a new character, this is about 246k SP. So basically, you will be wasting half of the SP of an injector just by training up a cyno alt..as you can only use an injector on one character.

Are you sure you're not rushing this? What stops you from scaling down if you do not have the required ISK yourself, this isn't a wise investment of your money even if you did. Train two cyno alts for one week and save yourself 3.6b. Yes, you'll have to be patient...but it's a lot better than wasting money on injectors.

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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#7 - 2016-05-05 19:48:41 UTC
I will be your cyno buddy for a mere 100m (plus fuel and condor)

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Makeleth Riatu Solette
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2016-05-05 19:50:25 UTC
After the wonderful advice of our wonderful MD residents, if you are still set on getting injectors, I would be willing to speak with you for this loan. EVE-mail me if so. Best of luck to you!

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Cheytac Skor
Cheytac Command and Control
#9 - 2016-05-05 19:52:04 UTC
The toons would be housed on accounts I already pay for with empty slots. So no cost there as each is already paided out over a year. Yes 500k sp but will also be used to train a frig skill and Hull upgrades as well as Cyno 4. As I said yes it is an isk sink. I could do with two but much easier to have alts at set points. Making 3b back will be easier and done inside a month. Clearly i could wait but talking in terms of 6 guys that's 24 days and half of my longer skills. Isk vs time vs Profit. I value time. Saved as more than isk or immediate profit. Short term loss long gain.
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2016-05-05 22:39:53 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
I will be your cyno buddy for a mere 100m (plus fuel and condor)


you have a clear vision of that thread Cool

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Makeleth Riatu Solette
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2016-05-06 03:23:37 UTC
I have filled this loan. I hope you are successful in your endeavor and I look forward to your results Big smile

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