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I use XP for EVE on Windows 10
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NPC Hakaari
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2016-05-04 09:55:58 UTC  |  Edited by: NPC Hakaari
kept getting CCP EXEFile has stopped working and eve kept crashing.. so I am using the windows xp eve launcher on windows 10 and its working great
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#2 - 2016-05-04 10:19:37 UTC
never had any issues with the new launcher on windows 10, works great

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Cypherous
Liberty Rogues
Aprilon Dynasty
#3 - 2016-05-04 11:01:10 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
never had any issues with the new launcher on windows 10, works great


+1 i started using the new launcher recently and i gotta say, its sooooo much better than the old one
Pix Severus
Empty You
#4 - 2016-05-04 13:33:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Pix Severus
You should upgrade to Windows 7, works fine, I heard it also doesn't send all your personal info to the NSA, you have nothing to lose!

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Velarra
#5 - 2016-05-04 14:13:19 UTC
Pix Severus wrote:
You should upgrade to Windows 7, I heard it also doesn't send all your personal info to the NSA, you have nothing to lose!


I rather look forward to the day some group like the cult of the dead cow release a modernized version of back orifice for W10 which utilizes its logging & collection mechanism. The hysteria revolving around the remote collecting of other people's info will be amusing.
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#6 - 2016-05-04 15:24:50 UTC
Pix Severus wrote:
You should upgrade to Windows 7, works fine, I heard it also doesn't send all your personal info to the NSA, you have nothing to lose!

Not true. We've known about NSA spyware in Windows since 1999...
And let's not forget the telemetry "security" updates that Windows 7 got.

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
Velarra
#7 - 2016-05-04 16:11:05 UTC
Linus Gorp wrote:
Pix Severus wrote:
You should upgrade to Windows 7, works fine, I heard it also doesn't send all your personal info to the NSA, you have nothing to lose!

Not true. We've known about NSA spyware in Windows since 1999...
And let's not forget the telemetry "security" updates that Windows 7 got.


Sigh. The tinfoil hattery is kinda pointless and a low to no-priority concern for most sane people. However If you'd like a genuine concern it's not big brother. But the internet at large, and the collection of various miscreants who take great glee in engaging various forms of security compromising activity. The real issue with w10 is that microsoft has provided a built-in Trojan for every tech savy malcontent to play with. Remotely! Back Orifice was such fun in ages past.
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#8 - 2016-05-04 16:40:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Linus Gorp
Velarra wrote:
Linus Gorp wrote:
Pix Severus wrote:
You should upgrade to Windows 7, works fine, I heard it also doesn't send all your personal info to the NSA, you have nothing to lose!

Not true. We've known about NSA spyware in Windows since 1999...
And let's not forget the telemetry "security" updates that Windows 7 got.


Sigh. The tinfoil hattery is kinda pointless and a low to no-priority concern for most sane people. However If you'd like a genuine concern it's not big brother. But the internet at large, and the collection of various miscreants who take great glee in engaging various forms of security compromising activity. The real issue with w10 is that microsoft has provided a built-in Trojan for every tech savy malcontent to play with. Remotely! Back Orifice was such fun in ages past.

No sane person should ever trust closed source with anything important. In an ideal world, both software and hardware are absolutely and 100% open. Compromised and spying hardware is a far bigger problem than software-based spyware is these days.

Velarra wrote:
and the collection of various miscreants who take great glee in engaging various forms of security compromising activity.

That's sort of how I earn my living.

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#9 - 2016-05-04 16:59:59 UTC
NPC Hakaari wrote:
kept getting CCP EXEFile has stopped working and eve kept crashing.. so I am using the windows xp eve launcher on windows 10 and its working great



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Velarra
#10 - 2016-05-04 17:11:31 UTC
Linus Gorp wrote:
No sane person should ever trust closed source software with anything important. In an ideal world, both software and hardware are absolutely and 100% open. Compromised and spying hardware is a far bigger problem than software-based spyware is these days.

Perhaps. Yet constant referencing to extreme ideals and tinfoil inspired concerns, only end up being blood in the water for generic trolls and at worst, self inflicted isolation. Despite espousing theoretically admirable concerns.

Linus Gorp wrote:

Velarra wrote:
and the collection of various miscreants who take great glee in engaging various forms of security compromising activity.

That's sort of how I earn my living.

While that could be read a couple wildly different ways, .... Yes. I'd echo that Win10's issues aren't microsoft collecting software and service improving telemetry. The issue with it, is that it features a data collection infrastructure which MS seems to optimistically presume only they will be able to capture/receive. Man in the middle data collection? pff... So silly! Obviously MS will release zero-day patches that'll fix things like that instantly! Every single W10 computer will install them because every computer has perfect internet access at all times! :)
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#11 - 2016-05-04 17:22:16 UTC
Velarra wrote:

Linus Gorp wrote:

Velarra wrote:
and the collection of various miscreants who take great glee in engaging various forms of security compromising activity.

That's sort of how I earn my living.

While that could be read a couple wildly different ways, .... Yes. I'd echo that Win10's issues aren't microsoft collecting software and service improving telemetry. The issue with it, is that it features a data collection infrastructure which MS seems to optimistically presume only they will be able to capture/receive. Man in the middle data collection? pff... So silly! Obviously MS will release zero-day patches that'll fix things like that instantly! Every single W10 computer will install them because every computer has perfect internet access at all times! :)

I'm not a black hat hacker. Of course I wouldn't tell you if I were, that would be just stupid, but I'm seriously not.

A computer without internet access hardly has to worry about this and if there's anyone actually believing that M$ is collecting all those information for their own company use (of course also all the crap they should have absolutely NO ******* BUSINESS of ever getting), then that person must be living in a wonderful, delusional dreamworld.

I also doubt that MITM is going to be a concern here, unless they totally ****** up their implementation. Yeah, it's Microsoft, but still..

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#12 - 2016-05-04 21:13:10 UTC
Velarra wrote:
The issue with it, is that it features a data collection infrastructure which MS seems to optimistically presume only they will be able to capture/receive. Man in the middle data collection? pff... So silly! Obviously MS will release zero-day patches that'll fix things like that instantly! Every single W10 computer will install them because every computer has perfect internet access at all times! :)

Hi I don't know if you're aware of this but there's a thing called TLS. You should read about it.
Deck Cadelanne
CAStabouts
#13 - 2016-05-04 22:38:44 UTC
Linus Gorp wrote:
Pix Severus wrote:
You should upgrade to Windows 7, works fine, I heard it also doesn't send all your personal info to the NSA, you have nothing to lose!

Not true. We've known about NSA spyware in Windows since 1999...
And let's not forget the telemetry "security" updates that Windows 7 got.


Was nobody aware of the infamous _NSAKEY?

It's almost as if most EVE players were no more than little kids...or just genetic potential...in 1999...

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Deck Cadelanne
CAStabouts
#14 - 2016-05-04 22:41:06 UTC
Linus Gorp wrote:
M$


You do realize that right there you just wrecked any semblance you may have claimed to credibility, right?

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Neadayan Drakhon
Heuristic Industrial And Development
AddictClan
#15 - 2016-05-04 23:01:54 UTC
Velarra wrote:
Pix Severus wrote:
You should upgrade to Windows 7, I heard it also doesn't send all your personal info to the NSA, you have nothing to lose!


I rather look forward to the day some group like the cult of the dead cow release a modernized version of back orifice for W10 which utilizes its logging & collection mechanism. The hysteria revolving around the remote collecting of other people's info will be amusing.

wow, I haven't heard anyone reference cult of the dead cow in at least 15 years, that brings back some memories...
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#16 - 2016-05-05 08:00:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Linus Gorp
Deck Cadelanne wrote:
Linus Gorp wrote:
M$


You do realize that right there you just wrecked any semblance you may have claimed to credibility, right?

I'm a FOSS Unix guy. My opinion of Microsoft is so low that it's almost non-existent. When I want to refer to them as M$, for whatever reason, then I'll just do it. It's not like this forum has any real meaning, nor does it correlate in any way with my life. I simply don't need to have any credibility here, because let's face it. Nobody gives a **** anyway.

Edit: And apparently you've never been on http://slashdot.org/ or http://soylentnews.org/ (the former site is dead to me). Referring to Microsoft as M$ is pretty common there and the only people that it upsets are the fanboys.

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2016-05-05 09:17:00 UTC
Windows 10... Dissapointing even near 1 year later.
CaesarGREG
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2016-05-05 11:22:34 UTC
The bigest mistake wich ccp can do, its stop suport windows xp, many ppl play on this OS, and even Microsoft still lunches Security updates and fixes for windows xp, even after saying to stop suport it.
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#19 - 2016-05-05 11:33:34 UTC
CaesarGREG wrote:
The bigest mistake wich ccp can do, its stop suport windows xp, many ppl play on this OS, and even Microsoft still lunches Security updates and fixes for windows xp, even after saying to stop suport it.


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Hawke Frost
#20 - 2016-05-05 11:41:33 UTC
Linus Gorp wrote:
Deck Cadelanne wrote:
Linus Gorp wrote:
M$


You do realize that right there you just wrecked any semblance you may have claimed to credibility, right?

I'm a FOSS Unix guy. My opinion of Microsoft is so low that it's almost non-existent. When I want to refer to them as M$, for whatever reason, then I'll just do it. It's not like this forum has any real meaning, nor does it correlate in any way with my life. I simply don't need to have any credibility here, because let's face it. Nobody gives a **** anyway.

Edit: And apparently you've never been on http://slashdot.org/ or http://soylentnews.org/ (the former site is dead to me). Referring to Microsoft as M$ is pretty common there and the only people that it upsets are the fanboys.


You seem to care enough to write an essay about how much you don't care, I guess it hit a nerve.
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